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2timesaday 09-05-2013 10:23 PM

FR - Rip off Masseuse - book at your own risk
 
Booked a girl from one of the stables here who only offered massage + HJ for $90.
Halfway thru the massage, she opened the suggestion that she is willing to offer FJ. Naturally like all hot-blooded guys would, I asked what was her asking rate. She said top-up $100…. which of course was an absurd rate that is way off the market.

So while still lying proned, I told her " 太高了".

Not sure if she pretended not to hear me, anyway she went out of the room to get her "stuff", came back and stripped and started to give me b2b and hot/cold treatment.

All this while I thought it was part of her handjob treatment since it was indicated as part of the services she provides.

When she suddenly pulled out a tube of KY and started to apply on herself…. I asked her what she was doing… she said she thought I agreed to the full job … blah..blah… Anyway, she said….she was already more than halfway thru so I cannot back out…. I said I was not gonna be chopped carrot and pay 190 for a full-job. But if she wanted as a concession I would settle for $150 since she was already "half-way thru".

She said… NO… that cannot do… must complete the job and must be $190.

I did not wish to argue and worsen my mood so I went thru with the full job and paid up.

After showering and while putting on my clothes… I again told that her price is way off the market rate. This is her response word-for-word: "没办法,这里的老板是黑的。" :eek: imagine my disbelief!!



To cut the story short.....Here are the rest of her statistics:

Face: In person, she does not look like photo posted at all. If the photo is really her, the photo must have been taken when she was like "19"?? My opinion, her photo looks like a 8, but real person I give a 6.

Boobs: looks like 34b as stated… droopy though.
Body: flabby, very obvious tummy fats and lots of love handles allover.
BJ: hot-cold treatment , earnestly working very hard but very mechanical, expressionless
gf: NIL (mechanical and dead-pan)
FJ: one position and finished…. (I was not interested to do more, no mood) 5/10
RTF: u say leh??


I will not publish her name or the stable openly in this thread because this may be just one bad apple in that whole stable. I have tried other girls in this same stable and the experiences before this was acceptable or good.

However, I am still pissed off with this bitch who thinks she can come here and use such tactics to rip off Singaporean brothers here.

If this FR can help save some brothers who care about how they spend their hard-earned money, I am more than happy to share.

So any choingster who want to know the identity of this bitch, you can drop me a PM and I will be happy to reveal her identity, but only via PM.

This way, I think it is fair so it does not damage a particular stable reputation and more importantly, it does not give her the opportunity to change her trade-name and change her "identity" and con more unsuspecting customers.

If you appreciate this FR, it would be nice if you would up my points…. (I don't really need it… but who knows when the points might come in handy, right?) Peace!

Meanwhile.... I am :mad: still pissed!

Xgenre 09-05-2013 10:29 PM

Re: FR - Rip off Masseuse - book at your own risk
 
If you don't name stable or girl, whatever you wrote is of no use to anyone here. People will still fall in her trap. If you name the stable, at least the promoter might want to safeguard his own reputation and do something about it.

Promfret 09-05-2013 10:30 PM

Re: FR - Rip off Masseuse - book at your own risk
 
Bro, if u really wanna help alert us
Best if u can put down the girl/lady name and contact number
And also let the TS have a chance to explain the situation
My humble 8pts for u
Cheers

lifeisfun 09-05-2013 10:36 PM

Re: FR - Rip off Masseuse - book at your own risk
 
more helpful to publish the name here to notify brothers....

2timesaday 09-05-2013 10:36 PM

Re: FR - Rip off Masseuse - book at your own risk
 
Thanks for the feedback... if I openly blacklist here... what is stopping her from changing her workname and profile photo? We know that has happened in this forum b4 with some more infamous girls.

Plus I don't need the hassle or risk of her harrassing me on my hp to take "revenge" (U can't be too careful, don't know what these people might do..:rolleyes:)

kane 10-05-2013 12:19 AM

Re: FR - Rip off Masseuse - book at your own risk
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 2timesaday (Post 8962973)
Thanks for the feedback... if I openly blacklist here... what is stopping her from changing her workname and profile photo? We know that has happened in this forum b4 with some more infamous girls.

Plus I don't need the hassle or risk of her harrassing me on my hp to take "revenge" (U can't be too careful, don't know what these people might do..:rolleyes:)

then this thread is pointless...its just ur ranting...

2timesaday 10-05-2013 12:48 AM

Re: FR - Rip off Masseuse - book at your own risk
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kane (Post 8963264)
then this thread is pointless...its just ur ranting...

from a general forum reader's point of view, it does seem so, but I have my valid reasons for such an approach.

and.....

I still achieve my objective of warning those brothers who are really interested to avoid falling for the same ruse.

For those who do not PM me for the girl's details, it is probably not important enough for them for any variety of reasons.... like maybe they normally do not book for massage, but only FJs.

u hv pm..

KingJulien 10-05-2013 11:20 AM

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I will zap u for not telling fellow samsters here!!! Yes this might be a bad apple from that stable, but we as a customer got the right to tell all n the OKT to stop all this nonsense from continuing. She said here the boss is "black", yet u not telling us who she is n what the stable is, not right bro :mad:

2timesaday 10-05-2013 11:38 AM

Re: FR - Rip off Masseuse - book at your own risk
 
Sadly, my intentions are misunderstood.

My FR is meant to forewarn other brothers from falling into the trap.
If I blast her name openly in this thread, all she need to do is change her working name, change her profile photo and maybe even change stable the very next day... and she can go on conning samsters as a new arrival?

Does that help us avoid her in the long run?

Moreover, the stable may not be at fault if he is just an advertiser, and openly naming the stable will be unfair to him ane the the other girls in his stable who are just trying to make a living to pay the bills.

Genuine bros who want the girl's info can always pm me for the info to safeguard themselves. This way, no one will be unnecessarily victimised except the intended culprit .

Simplyguy8 10-05-2013 11:45 AM

Re: FR - Rip off Masseuse - book at your own risk
 
I personally think your intentions are good Bro...(sorry don't know how to award points yet but will try to learn) in the meantime just enjoy your session since its suppose to release your stress for various reasons.

williamsF1 10-05-2013 03:01 PM

Re: FR - Rip off Masseuse - book at your own risk
 
to threadstarter, big thanks for the heads up.

personally, i never bother visiting those that offer only massage or HJ. the price listed for massage is absurd, and is quite expected that they will get your didi up, before popping the sacred question if u want to have full package?

normally, i will make my intent very clear before confirming the appointment. that way, theres no way she can roti prata upon meet up.

tanmikel 10-05-2013 03:03 PM

Re: FR - Rip off Masseuse - book at your own risk
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 2timesaday (Post 8962912)

I will not publish her name or the stable openly in this thread because this may be just one bad apple in that whole stable. I have tried other girls in this same stable and the experiences before this was acceptable or good.

!

why can't you name the girl so we won't suffer the same fate ?

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2timesaday (Post 8963356)
I still achieve my objective of warning those brothers who are really interested to avoid falling for the same ruse. ..

how did you achieve your objective if we don't know who to avoid ?

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2timesaday (Post 8965473)
My FR is meant to forewarn other brothers from falling into the trap.
If I blast her name openly in this thread, all she need to do is change her working name, change her profile photo and maybe even change stable the very next day... and she can go on conning samsters as a new arrival?

you'd be surprised how CSI some bro here are , once the girl kena blackmark , change simi lan also counter check

wally888 10-05-2013 03:08 PM

Re: FR - Rip off Masseuse - book at your own risk
 
u name okt or gal, this thread would be gone in quick time. :(

TS, thx for the warning esp when gal chut pattern. Upzz u when power recovers!

wkc77 10-05-2013 10:02 PM

Re: FR - Rip off Masseuse - book at your own risk
 
Bro. Black or White not an issue. If OKT is understanding, they will know and deal with their girls ..
OKT Black or White still earning a living and they need our support.
Beside why worry. You just helping us samster here..

2timesaday 11-05-2013 12:23 AM

Re: FR - Rip off Masseuse - book at your own risk
 
I think maybe I ought to clarify sometime here.

I believe the stable (the website promoting this girl).... is simply her advertiser.... and nothing more. And he is most likely - NOT the black-okt" that the girl was referring to.....


I believe she is under the control of an actual pimp who is housing her and taking a cut from her earnings that that of the other girls in the same aprtment. Her real pimp is probably the "black okt" she was referring to.

I came to that conclusion because she shares the apartment with 5 other girls. Together, they share 3 bedrms. All the girls camp out in the living room and whoever has a customer uses the bedrooms.

That is why I do not believe in openly naming the stable.... because listing-stable and her okt are 2 different people... as far as I can conclude.

ruchucky 11-05-2013 12:34 AM

Re: FR - Rip off Masseuse - book at your own risk
 
bro, i suggest u post her photo to this so allbro can can aleart even she change profile or name alsonot use, unless she go change face...:D

loneyheart 11-05-2013 01:55 AM

Re: FR - Rip off Masseuse - book at your own risk
 
1 TS will not has 100% all good FLs
Will not condem a TS just for 1 bad FL exp ... As he has no total control of her too ... she is but just 1 of TS customers
Good TS will accepted feed back n buck up his FL bad attitude
If she never change .... TS may drop her fm his stable
Its better to drop off 1 bad apple then to let t whole branch rot

TS reputation r to b gain by supportive of most samters here w honest report n rating n good intro too
1 bad apple will not damage TS reputation if he handle positively w complain n even earn more respect n support

I support to reveal her TS n her thread openly n post n link this post on her thread too to warn samters
FLs r here to earn hard $$$ so tats our hard earned $$$ too


Let us expose all BAD FTs n drive them out of this service industry n not let them get out of control to cheat our hard earn $$$ n destroy our playground
Support n respect GOOD FTs only as they out to give her best to serve n earn her hard earn $$$ by making us a happy n satisfied paying customers


We samters has a choice if we want to accept t package as stated n to demand wat we see r wat we get to make our $$$ well spend

TSs r just t supplier of FLs
We r t demand n paying customers
So we r in t control too

Both get t good jobs done n we leave n return happily as a satisfied paying customers
Just IMHO

sweetprcbabes 11-05-2013 02:10 AM

Re: FR - Rip off Masseuse - book at your own risk
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by loneyheart (Post 8969981)
1 TS will not has 100% all good FLs
Will not condem a TS just for 1 bad FL exp ... As he has no total control of her too ... she is but just 1 of TS customers
Good TS will accepted feed back n buck up his FL bad attitude
If she never change .... TS may drop her fm his stable
Its better to drop off 1 bad apple then to let t whole branch rot

TS reputation r to b gain by supportive of most samters here w honest report n rating n good intro too
1 bad apple will not damage TS reputation if he handle positively w complain n even earn more respect n support

I support to reveal her TS n her thread openly n post n link this post on her thread too to warn samters
FLs r here to earn hard $$$ so tats our hard earned $$$ too


Let us expose all BAD FTs n drive them out of this service industry n not let them get out of control to cheat our hard earn $$$ n destroy our playground
Support n respect GOOD FTs only as they out to give her best to earn her hard earn $$$

We samters has a choice if we want to accept t package as stated n to demand wat we see r wat we get to make our $$$ we spend

TSs r just t supplier of FLs
We r t demand n paying customers
So we r in t control too

Both get t good jobs done n we leave n return happily as a satisfied paying customers
Just IMHO


I support bro's idea
;)

justhorny 11-05-2013 11:06 PM

Re: FR - Rip off Masseuse - book at your own risk
 
Hi bro 2timesaday, thanks for sharing the info privately.

I understand your predicament and I support you. 10 pts from me!

sgguy34 12-05-2013 02:59 AM

Re: FR - Rip off Masseuse - book at your own risk
 
Support naming gal and stable. Bad means bad! Good must praise, otherwise think all singaporean cai tao ar

w0lfman 12-05-2013 06:25 AM

Re: FR - Rip off Masseuse - book at your own risk
 
:confused:Business for all gal providing Massage and HJ at 90 wil be slooooooooooow. One FR kills all :eek::eek::eek:

romidogdog 12-05-2013 09:08 AM

Re: FR - Rip off Masseuse - book at your own risk
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 2timesaday (Post 8969636)
I think maybe I ought to clarify sometime here.

I believe the stable (the website promoting this girl).... is simply her advertiser.... and nothing more. And he is most likely - NOT the black-okt" that the girl was referring to.....


I believe she is under the control of an actual pimp who is housing her and taking a cut from her earnings that that of the other girls in the same aprtment. Her real pimp is probably the "black okt" she was referring to.

I came to that conclusion because she shares the apartment with 5 other girls. Together, they share 3 bedrms. All the girls camp out in the living room and whoever has a customer uses the bedrooms.

That is why I do not believe in openly naming the stable.... because listing-stable and her okt are 2 different people... as far as I can conclude.

Bro 2timesaday , like what u say they are her advertiser , I believe they got no control over them about your bad experience.we can only feedback to them n to our bros here. why not just post her picture so all Bro will take note, she can photo shot again but no use, we can always reject if happen to book her , no need to pity this kind of bitch . our money also hard to earn but at the same time also must teach those bad apples a lesson. your FR is very much appreciated here.

charlesxll 12-05-2013 01:57 PM

Re: FR - Rip off Masseuse - book at your own risk
 
bro 2timesaday! can u just bloody name the okt and girl alr... hearing your story kinda pisses me off but knowing u still wanna be the good guy after what had happened pisses me even more!!!:mad::mad::mad:

KingJulien 12-05-2013 02:53 PM

Re: FR - Rip off Masseuse - book at your own risk
 
woh someone zapped me without leaving his nick and said I am cocky hahaha

imate 14-05-2013 12:23 AM

Re: FR - Rip off Masseuse - book at your own risk
 
I totally understand what you went through bro. Just had a similar bad experience recently and instead of getting a reply from the TS, a newbie with only 4 posts came and gave good ratings! The TS just continue to bump the thread like nothing ever happened. I don't know if I just want to laugh or get even more pissed.

Gone are the days where people here really wanted to share gems and was not out to cheat another bro's money and sperms. Now, they don't care. I do agree with what many of the bros had posted so far, we are not carrots to be chopped.

2timesaday 14-05-2013 12:55 AM

Re: FR - Rip off Masseuse - book at your own risk
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by imate (Post 8986299)
I totally understand what you went through bro. Just had a similar bad experience recently and instead of getting a reply from the TS, a newbie with only 4 posts came and gave good ratings! The TS just continue to bump the thread like nothing ever happened. I don't know if I just want to laugh or get even more pissed.

Gone are the days where people here really wanted to share gems and was not out to cheat another bro's money and sperms. Now, they don't care. I do agree with what many of the bros had posted so far, we are not carrots to be chopped.

The advertising threads are so aggressive these days in SBF.... the advertising TS need to bump up their girls threads every hour or so to outdo each other, otherwise their threads will get lost 5 or 6 or even 10 pages behind.... so do you think they really have time to attend to one negative FR.

I believe... the advertiser TS value their ratings with their FL more... (so as to attract more girls to advertise with them.) They don't really pay attention to the ratings from chiongsters unless too many bad reviews come in at the same time... then they may sit up and start to do damage control. The bigger their portfolio of girls.... the less time they have to attend to complains.

Look at the health centre section.... up to 3-4 years ago.... it was a good section where brothers really shared FRs for good massage places and recommended angpai,and girls who gave good service. These days... the health centre section is flooded with advertisers.... and newbies asking for contacts.... there is no more value in that section. (of course all the AV raids helped to kill the threads there too....)

Now... with AV always monitoring here.... we can no longer give good FRs, otherwise the playgrounds will be quickly raided....

so we also must evolve with the times ---> new trend should be be to provide bad FR for gals who provide bad service so they they can be quickly shut-down. We do not have to worry about accidentally giving the contact info to a undercover AV who pm you for her contact, right? ;)

Xgenre 14-05-2013 09:06 AM

Re: FR - Rip off Masseuse - book at your own risk
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 2timesaday (Post 8986453)
so do you think they really have time to attend to one negative FR.

Why not? It may be 1 bad FR to you but if enough people ask him about it, it will seem like many bad FR to him. You write 1 bad FR. 30 other guys ask him about this 1 bad FR. You think the advertisers won't be irritated and do something?

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2timesaday (Post 8986453)
so we also must evolve with the times ---> new trend should be be to provide bad FR for gals who provide bad service so they they can be quickly shut-down. We do not have to worry about accidentally giving the contact info to a undercover AV who pm you for her contact, right? ;)

You are quite the expert in got say like never say right? You write so many words but what did we learn after reading through them? Nothing. :rolleyes: We still don't know who you are complaining about.

Since you aren't going to help us weed out the bad, why not keep your comments to yourself in future? Less frustrating for everyone.


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