Geylang has seen better days

[Fat Fatt]

Re: Geylang has seen better days
Actually I wanted to say the world has seen better days

1. After Covid many countries still remain cautious. For eg in GL they don’t allow the PRC cat150 girls to go to different houses. This reduces earnings of girls and only really hot ang pais with steady stream of customers will stay longer. If girls keep changing then service always fluctuates

2. After the Ukraine conflict, all prices go up and rentals go up inflation etc. WL prices also have to go up. Higher end girls will no longer accept the previous normal charging as they also have to pay their own rising expenses. So girls quality drop in GL though price went up to 200.

All the above are not due to GL but the world changing and we just need to manage expectations if it’s GL. Otherwise we have to really pay more to get more beautiful and more service (uncertainty)

[loneyheart]

Nothing to shout at after re-opening

[TheIdesOfMarch]

SG has become a lot more expensive for everybody living here.

Locals have less disposable income to go GL. WLs will find that they have to spend more money during their stay in SG with less income than if they did it before Covid.

Also, there's been a steadily increasing ideological "puritan" push within the government and civil service to "clean up" Singapore of any remaining traces of open vice like the red light district or anywhere associated with the sex trade. The older generation of leaders knew to keep these places open and active as an act of pragmatism. The new generation just wants to turn every plot of land possible into high value property. And Geylang is one of the few remaining areas untouched by such gentrification.

Finally, sites like Onlyfans has fundamentally changed the whole sex trade scene not just in SG but worldwide. Don't think that red light districts outside of SG are necessarily doing any better. Fact is a girl who wants to make money with her body in 2023 can easily make just as much if not more by selling Onlyfans content online without ever needing to physically fuck any of the guys paying for her naked body. Those that are willing to physically escort in real life can hang themselves up to sell for the highest price possible and they'll have no shortage of men with hot money in their pockets willing to splurge on them. Why would any girl want to work in a brothel or red light district anymore?

The future of sex is going to be increasingly dystopian and class-separated. I'm just glad I already had my fill of fun before the world went to shit.

[Tension68]

Originally Posted by TheIdesOfMarch

SG has become a lot more expensive for everybody living here.

Locals have less disposable income to go GL. WLs will find that they have to spend more money during their stay in SG with less income than if they did it before Covid.

Also, there's been a steadily increasing ideological "puritan" push within the government and civil service to "clean up" Singapore of any remaining traces of open vice like the red light district or anywhere associated with the sex trade. The older generation of leaders knew to keep these places open and active as an act of pragmatism. The new generation just wants to turn every plot of land possible into high value property. And Geylang is one of the few remaining areas untouched by such gentrification.

Finally, sites like Onlyfans has fundamentally changed the whole sex trade scene not just in SG but worldwide. Don't think that red light districts outside of SG are necessarily doing any better. Fact is a girl who wants to make money with her body in 2023 can easily make just as much if not more by selling Onlyfans content online without ever needing to physically fuck any of the guys paying for her naked body. Those that are willing to physically escort in real life can hang themselves up to sell for the highest price possible and they'll have no shortage of men with hot money in their pockets willing to splurge on them. Why would any girl want to work in a brothel or red light district anymore?

The future of sex is going to be increasingly dystopian and class-separated. I'm just glad I already had my fill of fun before the world went to shit.

Bro, while I agree with you on increasing prices and all.. the only fans I dun see any impact on Geylang.

I duno about the rest of you, but pron sites has lost its "magic" for me... I mean I still watch it.. but.. for "recreational fun with my hands".. it has dropped to a lifelong low... for me.. its the touch of the female body.. the skin.. their hair.. hands, feet.. boobs and pussy that really gets me really turned on.

I remember one of my friends saying, "why spend money in GL, when you can put your money in one hand, jerk off with the other?"

Well.. you cannot grab your own chest and imagine its 34C or bigger boobs.. and no matter how good I am at imgining things.. the sense of touch cannot be really replicated with just my thoughts.

Which brings me to the current state of things in GL. I mean.. it seems that the current stock.. their age is like.. older? Some may still have the face .. but their body... shows signs of age. skin is not as taut and bodies is not tight.. not even comparable to baby fat... only.. fat

And for some FLs, its almost the same.. if not worse. Some of the pics on the sites shows a young girl.. but when you see then in person.. they suddenly aged like 10 years or more. One of my buddies cnfirmed, saying he remembers a FL he tried almost 8 years ago.. still in SG... and should be in mid 30s.

I practically gave up on FLs in SG.. the FL scene is also not the same as in the late 80s, early 90s to early 200s. Those were the days where young gals, Chinese from Msia and SG, Malays from Msia and SG ply the trade... sadly.. the SG scene is not as vibrant as Msia. I heard the happenings over there is really eye-popping.

Back to Geylang. if the AV still thinks that gals will come to work legally in SG and then get banned from ever visiting SG after they leave.. well.. dun expect them to come legally anymore. they might not come here.. but go elsewhere.

i still remember stories of popular PRC angpais and Msia angpai who continue work n Msia.. but it seems now their news have gone silent...

I wonder if any would have gone to Thailand, Phillipines or Vietnam to work, or open houses? I mean, why not?

If Myanmar ever gets peace, it could be another haven for punters... and then Geylang will definitely go into history books.

I wonder.. if some businessmen come together, and set up in those countries I mentioned, how would the stock of gals be? International? I surely hope so. With Macau now fully controlled by CCP, the sauna scene there is also i ntatters.. much like HK. Although HK still has pinoy and viet to keep the trade still somewhat afloat. I doubt the economy, run by CCP can do a U-turn at this point of time.

Mass brain-drain in HK is still going on, and there seems to be no end. Those who leave, want to escape the ridiculous measures set by CCP idiots and their unkat supporters who cling on to get whatever scraps they can get.

Geylang.. please .. please wake up to the situation and do a major revamp. It can be a very good stimuli for the economy if well managed, well-maintained, and updated. Forget the casinos, their contribution is declining.. even F1 does not seem to do the trick anymore. Be brave SG, go foe the meat.. not the scraps.

[HalimahYakult]

All i know is that girls these days are quite ugly..

Even the APs if they were working in GL pre-covid.. wont be considered APs..

but i'm just grateful geylang is open because other pay for play scenes are even worse..

[TheIdesOfMarch]

Originally Posted by HalimahYakult

All i know is that girls these days are quite ugly..

Even the APs if they were working in GL pre-covid.. wont be considered APs..

but i'm just grateful geylang is open because other pay for play scenes are even worse..

Well said.

Nowadays in the world it's rare for anything to be attractive because they're good. More like they're attractive because the other alternate options are worse. It's a race to the bottom in so many industries and things in life.

[TheIdesOfMarch]

Originally Posted by Tension68

Bro, while I agree with you on increasing prices and all.. the only fans I dun see any impact on Geylang.

Onlyfans impact on GL is not on demand side, but supply side.

So demand for GL is still there. But supply side quantity and quality falls right off a cliff. Nowadays Thai girls would rather take the risk and do FL work in Dome 1 stables, in and out of SG in 2 or 3 weeks, still can come back in future rinse and repeat, than come SG work in GL for 2 year tour of duty and then get forever banned from reentering SG.

[WhiteMilk]

I think the decline is not because of covid. The real culprit is actually the rapid rise of Smartphone and Instagram and other apps in general, now it of course includes things like OnlyFans and Tiktok.

I noticed the decline really hit hard in 2015.

From 2008-2012 it was still the good days where CAT150 was indeed PREMIUM Bonks. At that time, even randomly going in to CAT150 Houses and ask for any girls, I remember last time I always got hot and sexy girls with tip top services that included Catbath, French Kiss, and AR. and most of the time, I was able to always get 2 shots in each CAT150 sessions without any issue.

In this period, it was also the golden years of this forum. Walking in randomly to the houses was already decent enough. But surfing this forum that time really ensured without a shadow of a doubt you'd get the pinnacle of the angpais giving you unforgettable bonk exp for the lifetime literally

Notable gals around this period were Moon, Chu Chu (v1), Jenny, Lu Lu (v1, Jia Yi, Qiu Xiang, etc.

Then in 2014-2016 the decline started to hit hard. This time can no longer randomly just ask for CAT150, really had to carefully scour this forum so hard to identify the angpais that you can really feel in the air that their numbers were fast declining.

Let's not forget also that time, this forum was extremely rife with dramas and also fake FRs promoting certain girls as "angpais" but actually nothing to shout about. Fell into this trap probably at least 4-5 bonks that I can remember.

It's already hit and miss. CAT150 was starting to fill up with lower standards that were CAT100 and even CAT80 back in 2008-2012.

If you scour the forum carefully and hard enough, I remember I was able to get notable gems from this period, but even then most of these "gems" don't give their "full service" at the 1st bonk. U need to RTF at least once to unlock the "full service range" like Frenching especially. Frenching was getting rare at this time, especially in the 1st sessions

Notable girls at this period: Rong Rong, Wan Wan, Ding Ding, Chu Chu (v2), Emily, Yang Yang, An Qi Er, Paris, etc.

After 2016 especially the period right before COVID it's starting to get painful. CAT150 was pretty much CAT100 at best in terms of quality and standards.

[tnuc]

For me. Geylang during the street walker days in early 2000 era was the best. Random tall dongbei girls with fair skin and big neh neh were standing on the streets waiting to be fucked. Those days are long gone. The current WLs are not attractive at all. Even those in massage parlours or FLs are not good looking. The chio ones won’t come

[fatguy]

i think now the internet has change how things use to be.

now its easier to be FL and hide online, no need to stand at the street and pull people when you can just go on locanto and advertise.

pretty girls now also easier to find sugar daddy, they also know they can make money on social media if they show some skin when doing normal stuff like playing games, or werid stuff like acting like a dog, and people will throw money at them.

and then there is onlyfans, and sex chat like chatabate and stuff where they can just flirt flirt, masturbate, or fuck their bf and get money, i see quite a few of these live chats with china ladies.

sex work is always a last resort, if all else fails, and money is needed, then i can sell my body. so this is pretty expected and i don't see things getting better, the time of GL has passed, frankly, i am just glad it reopen, some bros thot after covid, gahmen might quiet quiet and close it down.

[kungfufucker]

Originally Posted by tnuc

For me. Geylang during the street walker days in early 2000 era was the best. Random tall dongbei girls with fair skin and big neh neh were standing on the streets waiting to be fucked. Those days are long gone. The current WLs are not attractive at all. Even those in massage parlours or FLs are not good looking. The chio ones won’t come

Depends on what type of massage parlours. Those high end ones in high end locations like clarke quay got very good stock. I love finding my fave Dongbei Jilin ML/FL in clarke quay spa, I like her looks as she look like Kpop star Luna. In fact she can speak Korean and do Korean JG as she work in Korea before. But price is high too. So u pay for what u get. But geylang legal scene u dont pay for what u get. Anyway a lot of money goes to okt and govt taxes so not worth. In spa though got entrance fee but ambience nice and get not only fj but good solid proffesional massage and JG. Thus I find high end spas the most worth.

[bullterrier]

Originally Posted by tnuc

For me. Geylang during the street walker days in early 2000 era was the best. Random tall dongbei girls with fair skin and big neh neh were standing on the streets waiting to be fucked. Those days are long gone. The current WLs are not attractive at all. Even those in massage parlours or FLs are not good looking. The chio ones won’t come

massage parlour ones, have pretty ones. Bugis area, x Cres, Jurong West, the stock is still there.

Pretty WLs, still have. Depending you want natural beauty or after enhancement. 2041 Xiao Mei, most bros think she is prettiest. 1669 Qiqi. 2058 Grace. 1612 Xiao Yu. Main thing is beauty lies in the eyes of the beholder. I prefer natural beauty with "woman taste/mistress" type. I am not too fond of those KTV style barbie doll look type.

[bullterrier]

Originally Posted by kungfufucker

Depends on what type of massage parlours. Those high end ones in high end locations like clarke quay got very good stock. I love finding my fave Dongbei Jilin ML/FL in clarke quay spa, I like her looks as she look like Kpop star Luna. In fact she can speak Korean and do Korean JG as she work in Korea before. But price is high too. So u pay for what u get. But geylang legal scene u dont pay for what u get. Anyway a lot of money goes to okt and govt taxes so not worth. In spa though got entrance fee but ambience nice and get not only fj but good solid proffesional massage and JG. Thus I find high end spas the most worth.

agree. it also come with a premium.

[tnuc]

Originally Posted by bullterrier

massage parlour ones, have pretty ones. Bugis area, x Cres, Jurong West, the stock is still there.

Pretty WLs, still have. Depending you want natural beauty or after enhancement. 2041 Xiao Mei, most bros think she is prettiest. 1669 Qiqi. 2058 Grace. 1612 Xiao Yu. Main thing is beauty lies in the eyes of the beholder. I prefer natural beauty with "woman taste/mistress" type. I am not too fond of those KTV style barbie doll look type.

Agree with the list. I never try Xiaoyu before though. 2041 has lili. Dongbei girl who gives me damn good service. She satisfies my list for dongbei girls now

[WhiteMilk]

Originally Posted by fatguy

i think now the internet has change how things use to be.

now its easier to be FL and hide online, no need to stand at the street and pull people when you can just go on locanto and advertise.

pretty girls now also easier to find sugar daddy, they also know they can make money on social media if they show some skin when doing normal stuff like playing games, or werid stuff like acting like a dog, and people will throw money at them.

and then there is onlyfans, and sex chat like chatabate and stuff where they can just flirt flirt, masturbate, or fuck their bf and get money, i see quite a few of these live chats with china ladies.

sex work is always a last resort, if all else fails, and money is needed, then i can sell my body. so this is pretty expected and i don't see things getting better, the time of GL has passed, frankly, i am just glad it reopen, some bros thot after covid, gahmen might quiet quiet and close it down.

Absolutely agree with your take here. I think the advancement of the intenret and smartphones and all these apps absolutely destroyed our playground...

I think it's absolutely fatal that this happens, not only for the new generations, who many of them (especially those young ones "in the same boat" as me at their age) would most likely only be able to get their sexual fix from all these online stuff and nothing else...

But I feel that it's also as fatal, if not even worse for people like me. I mean, I have dipped myself into the FL scene and especially GL scene before I even left my teens years, and safe to say over these years I have developed massive addiction to this hobby let's put it this way.

and I really felt the bullet hit when the covid period hit. it's like going cold turkey and it hurts. At a glance, it seems okay, but trust me it's like torture suddenly not having actual sex. PCC is one thing, but it's not the real thing, and you know it and your body knows it.

When you Bonk a WL, 1 shot is usually already sufficient to carry me over at least for half a day, and 2 shots usually is enough to carry me over at least 2-3 days with clear mind and zero pain (mainly migraine and headache and joint pains) before it fills up again. But when you PCC, you can PCC for 5-6x a day and it feels nowhere near like the real thing. Even BBBJ will feel better. You can PCC 6x a day and all you get is headache and you will still feel horny and it's a very frustrating experience. and when you bonk or BBBJ, when you cum it's plenty and satisfying. But when you PCC, especially after 2nd time of the day onwards, you just cum like 2 drops or even nothing at all

But these 3 years and counting (i am on kinda a forced retirement) is really endless torture, and I don't wish this on anyone