Shall all the Bros here stand united & boycott KTVs since girl tips is insanely high?

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Hello you parrot ah? Keep repeating

[subidowa]

Originally Posted by TheIdesOfMarch

I don't mind the idea of us killing off bad KTV bistro outlets who rip us off with their prices through AV reports and subsequent raids on their premises. The thing I worry about is that whacking these black sheep outlets will merely give the government even more justification to permanently hamstring and kill off nightlife entertainment and vice in Singapore for good. It won't be a case of kill one to set an example to the rest. It'll be a case of the government taking a sledgehammer to nightlife KTVs, bars, pubs etc wholesale with no prejudice whatsoever. Its already quite clear this is what they're doing when they're OK with nightlife outlets reopening and pivoting to F&B (as many bars and pubs and KTVs have done), and opening up enough of society and business/public venues to make the shutdown of nightlife entertainment and legal vice in GL totally irrelevant in significance to combat this phony pandemic we live in. Somehow a bar/nightclub/KTV converted to an F&B outlet, serving alcohol alongside food to make it F&B, till 1030pm every night is okay in terms of COVID risk, and yet letting them stay as nightlife drinking/entertainment outlets isn't? Even legit family friendly chains like Teo Heng have not escaped this blanket treatment, and the government doesn't give a shit.

Bottomline is, we are stuck in a lose lose scenario here. We pay through the nose and get ripped off by nightlife and legalised/undertable vice operating in KTVs because the market now is one of increasingly pent up demand faced with limited supply. We boycott those that overcharge and report them in to get them raided and shut down, we risk killing off the entire industry leaving us with blue balls, as if boycotting the majority of KTVs that are ripping us off won't do the same to us too. The way vice and nightlife entertainment is looking like now is increasingly one which only the rich can pay to afford and play. And with the sort of money they've saved up from not being able to travel over the past year and the foreseeable future, they'll have plenty to splash without a care in the world, and they can singlehandedly keep the KTV industry with its insanely inflated prices afloat more than your average Joe Spender can as a whole community. Think of it like a stock bubble, like what we're seeing in tech now.

The rest of us can just pound sand for all the government and society cares. Because God forbid we have fun in this society however we want to as individuals, we just exist to contribute to economic growth statistics and lead squeaky clean lives as dictated by conservative and religious leaders in society. Sure, boycott and don't pay the stupid prices KTVs and vice generally is commanding now in Singapore. But we have to be realistic and recognise that it's not likely to improve the market to become a buyers' market anytime soon.

Bro, you england very power so i will reply the simplest i can in response to your concerns.


I don't mind the idea of us killing off bad KTV bistro outlets who rip us off with their prices through AV reports and subsequent raids on their premises.
--- pls do so.


The thing I worry about is that whacking these black sheep outlets will merely give the government even more justification to permanently hamstring and kill off nightlife entertainment and vice in Singapore for good. It won't be a case of kill one to set an example to the rest. It'll be a case of the government taking a sledgehammer to nightlife KTVs, bars, pubs etc wholesale with no prejudice whatsoever. Its already quite clear this is what they're doing when they're OK with nightlife outlets reopening and pivoting to F&B (as many bars and pubs and KTVs have done), and opening up enough of society and business/public venues to make the shutdown of nightlife entertainment and legal vice in GL totally irrelevant in significance to combat this phony pandemic we live in. Somehow a bar/nightclub/KTV converted to an F&B outlet, serving alcohol alongside food to make it F&B, till 1030pm every night is okay in terms of COVID risk, and yet letting them stay as nightlife drinking/entertainment outlets isn't? Even legit family friendly chains like Teo Heng have not escaped this blanket treatment, and the government doesn't give a shit.

Teo heng fall is because the business is a proper business. They stick to pay employees in full even in hard times and do not want to tarnish their reputations by becoming like bistros with girls entertaining customers and charging high tips. However, even how hard they try to survive, rental still must be paid. So kowtow to the boss of Teo Heng, i respect you much more than those despicable outlets who are still surviving now ripping us bros

PLease wack those black sheeps and don't worry about affecting the nightlife industry bros. Just like i mentioned early, rental still need to be paid and rental also need someone to pay. If government ban all nightlife, who can they collect the taxes and rentals from? CQ and BQ stay there do what? Will tourists still come to SG in that case of no night life at all and purely working? There is too much to consider, do not worry bros, government will not totally kill off nightlife. Maybe just alter a few things
and regulations nia. We still can play after this whole covid sage ends.

Bottomline is, we are stuck in a lose lose scenario here. We pay through the nose and get ripped off by nightlife and legalised/undertable vice operating in KTVs because the market now is one of increasingly pent up demand faced with limited supply. We boycott those that overcharge and report them in to get them raided and shut down, we risk killing off the entire industry leaving us with blue balls, as if boycotting the majority of KTVs that are ripping us off won't do the same to us too. The way vice and nightlife entertainment is looking like now is increasingly one which only the rich can pay to afford and play. And with the sort of money they've saved up from not being able to travel over the past year and the foreseeable future, they'll have plenty to splash without a care in the world, and they can singlehandedly keep the KTV industry with its insanely inflated prices afloat more than your average Joe Spender can as a whole community. Think of it like a stock bubble, like what we're seeing in tech now.

Bros, again do not worry about killing off the whole industry and no where to play. The government won't kill off this lucrative incomes for example like cigarette tax. Do so much bad advertising liao but u still can smoke what. The worst case is they change the playing style a bit only. Don't forget at the same time. Over in the world like Thailand (this especially since so many reports of street workers jobless etc), Cambordia, Malaysia or some other countries who are still recovering from this stupid covid is ever ready to welcome back the nightlife industry. Once this covid is over, bros can fly overseas to play around. I won't mention too much with regards the amount of fun you will get there and the prices you will pay only. So don't worry about no playing.

The problem statement now is the outlets and girls are over charging us while we are stuck here. So the point is report them and make them disappear forever. Let those who sincerely want to continue do business stay forever. Why there is this dulan around those outlets and girls. Because the amount they ask for is ridiculous. I like calculation, i will give u break down again. Room charge 300? martell 238? girls tip 100 and butterfly somemore. momm tip 100? waiters tip? All these haven't include tabao right. I read some bros said tapau 700-800 ST? I don't need to calculate. U bros just roughly add up and it already exceed 1000 per night. With this amount, you can book a return flight to the country you want to play. Stay in their 5 stars hotel and including ur funs. All in. The prices now doesn't justify the fun bros are having now. If that is the way the outlets wanna play. I rather the gov close all the oulets and introduce new concepts. So don't worry. government won't close down all the outlets, only the ones we targeting. Worse come to worst, there is always overseas once covid is finished. After this whole covid saga and the price back to normal i doubt anyone will complain anymore. Now the problem is what to do with these outlets and girls robbing us bros during fire now. If the prices still does not come down after the covid, i rather the government close down all the outlets, we will support overseas.

The rest of us can just pound sand for all the government and society cares. Because God forbid we have fun in this society however we want to as individuals, we just exist to contribute to economic growth statistics and lead squeaky clean lives as dictated by conservative and religious leaders in society. Sure, boycott and don't pay the stupid prices KTVs and vice generally is commanding now in Singapore. But we have to be realistic and recognise that it's not likely to improve the market to become a buyers' market anytime soon.

[subidowa]

Originally Posted by TheIdesOfMarch

I don't mind the idea of us killing off bad KTV bistro outlets who rip us off with their prices through AV reports and subsequent raids on their premises. The thing I worry about is that whacking these black sheep outlets will merely give the government even more justification to permanently hamstring and kill off nightlife entertainment and vice in Singapore for good. It won't be a case of kill one to set an example to the rest. It'll be a case of the government taking a sledgehammer to nightlife KTVs, bars, pubs etc wholesale with no prejudice whatsoever. Its already quite clear this is what they're doing when they're OK with nightlife outlets reopening and pivoting to F&B (as many bars and pubs and KTVs have done), and opening up enough of society and business/public venues to make the shutdown of nightlife entertainment and legal vice in GL totally irrelevant in significance to combat this phony pandemic we live in. Somehow a bar/nightclub/KTV converted to an F&B outlet, serving alcohol alongside food to make it F&B, till 1030pm every night is okay in terms of COVID risk, and yet letting them stay as nightlife drinking/entertainment outlets isn't? Even legit family friendly chains like Teo Heng have not escaped this blanket treatment, and the government doesn't give a shit.

Bottomline is, we are stuck in a lose lose scenario here. We pay through the nose and get ripped off by nightlife and legalised/undertable vice operating in KTVs because the market now is one of increasingly pent up demand faced with limited supply. We boycott those that overcharge and report them in to get them raided and shut down, we risk killing off the entire industry leaving us with blue balls, as if boycotting the majority of KTVs that are ripping us off won't do the same to us too. The way vice and nightlife entertainment is looking like now is increasingly one which only the rich can pay to afford and play. And with the sort of money they've saved up from not being able to travel over the past year and the foreseeable future, they'll have plenty to splash without a care in the world, and they can singlehandedly keep the KTV industry with its insanely inflated prices afloat more than your average Joe Spender can as a whole community. Think of it like a stock bubble, like what we're seeing in tech now.

The rest of us can just pound sand for all the government and society cares. Because God forbid we have fun in this society however we want to as individuals, we just exist to contribute to economic growth statistics and lead squeaky clean lives as dictated by conservative and religious leaders in society. Sure, boycott and don't pay the stupid prices KTVs and vice generally is commanding now in Singapore. But we have to be realistic and recognise that it's not likely to improve the market to become a buyers' market anytime soon.

Bro, you england very power so i will reply the simplest i can in response to your concerns.


I don't mind the idea of us killing off bad KTV bistro outlets who rip us off with their prices through AV reports and subsequent raids on their premises.
--- pls do so.


The thing I worry about is that whacking these black sheep outlets will merely give the government even more justification to permanently hamstring and kill off nightlife entertainment and vice in Singapore for good. It won't be a case of kill one to set an example to the rest. It'll be a case of the government taking a sledgehammer to nightlife KTVs, bars, pubs etc wholesale with no prejudice whatsoever. Its already quite clear this is what they're doing when they're OK with nightlife outlets reopening and pivoting to F&B (as many bars and pubs and KTVs have done), and opening up enough of society and business/public venues to make the shutdown of nightlife entertainment and legal vice in GL totally irrelevant in significance to combat this phony pandemic we live in. Somehow a bar/nightclub/KTV converted to an F&B outlet, serving alcohol alongside food to make it F&B, till 1030pm every night is okay in terms of COVID risk, and yet letting them stay as nightlife drinking/entertainment outlets isn't? Even legit family friendly chains like Teo Heng have not escaped this blanket treatment, and the government doesn't give a shit.

Teo heng fall is because the business is a proper business. They stick to pay employees in full even in hard times and do not want to tarnish their reputations by becoming like bistros with girls entertaining customers and charging high tips. However, even how hard they try to survive, rental still must be paid. So kowtow to the boss of Teo Heng, i respect you much more than those despicable outlets who are still surviving now ripping us bros

PLease wack those black sheeps and don't worry about affecting the nightlife industry bros. Just like i mentioned early, rental still need to be paid and rental also need someone to pay. If government ban all nightlife, who can they collect the taxes and rentals from? CQ and BQ stay there do what? Will tourists still come to SG in that case of no night life at all and purely working? There is too much to consider, do not worry bros, government will not totally kill off nightlife. Maybe just alter a few things
and regulations nia. We still can play after this whole covid sage ends.

Bottomline is, we are stuck in a lose lose scenario here. We pay through the nose and get ripped off by nightlife and legalised/undertable vice operating in KTVs because the market now is one of increasingly pent up demand faced with limited supply. We boycott those that overcharge and report them in to get them raided and shut down, we risk killing off the entire industry leaving us with blue balls, as if boycotting the majority of KTVs that are ripping us off won't do the same to us too. The way vice and nightlife entertainment is looking like now is increasingly one which only the rich can pay to afford and play. And with the sort of money they've saved up from not being able to travel over the past year and the foreseeable future, they'll have plenty to splash without a care in the world, and they can singlehandedly keep the KTV industry with its insanely inflated prices afloat more than your average Joe Spender can as a whole community. Think of it like a stock bubble, like what we're seeing in tech now.

Bros, again do not worry about killing off the whole industry and no where to play. The government won't kill off this lucrative incomes for example like cigarette tax. Do so much bad advertising liao but u still can smoke what. The worst case is they change the playing style a bit only. Don't forget at the same time. Over in the world like Thailand (this especially since so many reports of street workers jobless etc), Cambordia, Malaysia or some other countries who are still recovering from this stupid covid is ever ready to welcome back the nightlife industry. Once this covid is over, bros can fly overseas to play around. I won't mention too much with regards the amount of fun you will get there and the prices you will pay only. So don't worry about no playing.

The problem statement now is the outlets and girls are over charging us while we are stuck here. So the point is report them and make them disappear forever. Let those who sincerely want to continue do business stay forever. Why there is this dulan around those outlets and girls. Because the amount they ask for is ridiculous. I like calculation, i will give u break down again. Room charge 300? martell 238? girls tip 100 and butterfly somemore. momm tip 100? waiters tip? All these haven't include tabao right. I read some bros said tapau 700-800 ST? I don't need to calculate. U bros just roughly add up and it already exceed 1000 per night. With this amount, you can book a return flight to the country you want to play. Stay in their 5 stars hotel and including ur funs. All in. The prices now doesn't justify the fun bros are having now. If that is the way the outlets wanna play. I rather the gov close all the oulets and introduce new concepts. So don't worry. government won't close down all the outlets, only the ones we targeting. Worse come to worst, there is always overseas once covid is finished. After this whole covid saga and the price back to normal i doubt anyone will complain anymore. Now the problem is what to do with these outlets and girls robbing us bros during fire now. If the prices still does not come down after the covid, i rather the government close down all the outlets, we will support overseas.

The rest of us can just pound sand for all the government and society cares. Because God forbid we have fun in this society however we want to as individuals, we just exist to contribute to economic growth statistics and lead squeaky clean lives as dictated by conservative and religious leaders in society. Sure, boycott and don't pay the stupid prices KTVs and vice generally is commanding now in Singapore. But we have to be realistic and recognise that it's not likely to improve the market to become a buyers' market anytime soon.

[subidowa]

Originally Posted by TheIdesOfMarch

I don't mind the idea of us killing off bad KTV bistro outlets who rip us off with their prices through AV reports and subsequent raids on their premises. The thing I worry about is that whacking these black sheep outlets will merely give the government even more justification to permanently hamstring and kill off nightlife entertainment and vice in Singapore for good. It won't be a case of kill one to set an example to the rest. It'll be a case of the government taking a sledgehammer to nightlife KTVs, bars, pubs etc wholesale with no prejudice whatsoever. Its already quite clear this is what they're doing when they're OK with nightlife outlets reopening and pivoting to F&B (as many bars and pubs and KTVs have done), and opening up enough of society and business/public venues to make the shutdown of nightlife entertainment and legal vice in GL totally irrelevant in significance to combat this phony pandemic we live in. Somehow a bar/nightclub/KTV converted to an F&B outlet, serving alcohol alongside food to make it F&B, till 1030pm every night is okay in terms of COVID risk, and yet letting them stay as nightlife drinking/entertainment outlets isn't? Even legit family friendly chains like Teo Heng have not escaped this blanket treatment, and the government doesn't give a shit.

Bottomline is, we are stuck in a lose lose scenario here. We pay through the nose and get ripped off by nightlife and legalised/undertable vice operating in KTVs because the market now is one of increasingly pent up demand faced with limited supply. We boycott those that overcharge and report them in to get them raided and shut down, we risk killing off the entire industry leaving us with blue balls, as if boycotting the majority of KTVs that are ripping us off won't do the same to us too. The way vice and nightlife entertainment is looking like now is increasingly one which only the rich can pay to afford and play. And with the sort of money they've saved up from not being able to travel over the past year and the foreseeable future, they'll have plenty to splash without a care in the world, and they can singlehandedly keep the KTV industry with its insanely inflated prices afloat more than your average Joe Spender can as a whole community. Think of it like a stock bubble, like what we're seeing in tech now.

The rest of us can just pound sand for all the government and society cares. Because God forbid we have fun in this society however we want to as individuals, we just exist to contribute to economic growth statistics and lead squeaky clean lives as dictated by conservative and religious leaders in society. Sure, boycott and don't pay the stupid prices KTVs and vice generally is commanding now in Singapore. But we have to be realistic and recognise that it's not likely to improve the market to become a buyers' market anytime soon.

Bro, you england very power so i will reply the simplest i can in response to your concerns.


I don't mind the idea of us killing off bad KTV bistro outlets who rip us off with their prices through AV reports and subsequent raids on their premises.
--- pls do so.


The thing I worry about is that whacking these black sheep outlets will merely give the government even more justification to permanently hamstring and kill off nightlife entertainment and vice in Singapore for good. It won't be a case of kill one to set an example to the rest. It'll be a case of the government taking a sledgehammer to nightlife KTVs, bars, pubs etc wholesale with no prejudice whatsoever. Its already quite clear this is what they're doing when they're OK with nightlife outlets reopening and pivoting to F&B (as many bars and pubs and KTVs have done), and opening up enough of society and business/public venues to make the shutdown of nightlife entertainment and legal vice in GL totally irrelevant in significance to combat this phony pandemic we live in. Somehow a bar/nightclub/KTV converted to an F&B outlet, serving alcohol alongside food to make it F&B, till 1030pm every night is okay in terms of COVID risk, and yet letting them stay as nightlife drinking/entertainment outlets isn't? Even legit family friendly chains like Teo Heng have not escaped this blanket treatment, and the government doesn't give a shit.

Teo heng fall is because the business is a proper business. They stick to pay employees in full even in hard times and do not want to tarnish their reputations by becoming like bistros with girls entertaining customers and charging high tips. However, even how hard they try to survive, rental still must be paid. So kowtow to the boss of Teo Heng, i respect you much more than those despicable outlets who are still surviving now ripping us bros

PLease wack those black sheeps and don't worry about affecting the nightlife industry bros. Just like i mentioned early, rental still need to be paid and rental also need someone to pay. If government ban all nightlife, who can they collect the taxes and rentals from? CQ and BQ stay there do what? Will tourists still come to SG in that case of no night life at all and purely working? There is too much to consider, do not worry bros, government will not totally kill off nightlife. Maybe just alter a few things
and regulations nia. We still can play after this whole covid sage ends.

Bottomline is, we are stuck in a lose lose scenario here. We pay through the nose and get ripped off by nightlife and legalised/undertable vice operating in KTVs because the market now is one of increasingly pent up demand faced with limited supply. We boycott those that overcharge and report them in to get them raided and shut down, we risk killing off the entire industry leaving us with blue balls, as if boycotting the majority of KTVs that are ripping us off won't do the same to us too. The way vice and nightlife entertainment is looking like now is increasingly one which only the rich can pay to afford and play. And with the sort of money they've saved up from not being able to travel over the past year and the foreseeable future, they'll have plenty to splash without a care in the world, and they can singlehandedly keep the KTV industry with its insanely inflated prices afloat more than your average Joe Spender can as a whole community. Think of it like a stock bubble, like what we're seeing in tech now.

Bros, again do not worry about killing off the whole industry and no where to play. The government won't kill off this lucrative incomes for example like cigarette tax. Do so much bad advertising liao but u still can smoke what. The worst case is they change the playing style a bit only. Don't forget at the same time. Over in the world like Thailand (this especially since so many reports of street workers jobless etc), Cambordia, Malaysia or some other countries who are still recovering from this stupid covid is ever ready to welcome back the nightlife industry. Once this covid is over, bros can fly overseas to play around. I won't mention too much with regards the amount of fun you will get there and the prices you will pay only. So don't worry about no playing.

The problem statement now is the outlets and girls are over charging us while we are stuck here. So the point is report them and make them disappear forever. Let those who sincerely want to continue do business stay forever. Why there is this dulan around those outlets and girls. Because the amount they ask for is ridiculous. I like calculation, i will give u break down again. Room charge 300? martell 238? girls tip 100 and butterfly somemore. momm tip 100? waiters tip? All these haven't include tabao right. I read some bros said tapau 700-800 ST? I don't need to calculate. U bros just roughly add up and it already exceed 1000 per night. With this amount, you can book a return flight to the country you want to play. Stay in their 5 stars hotel and including ur funs. All in. The prices now doesn't justify the fun bros are having now. If that is the way the outlets wanna play. I rather the gov close all the oulets and introduce new concepts. So don't worry. government won't close down all the outlets, only the ones we targeting. Worse come to worst, there is always overseas once covid is finished. After this whole covid saga and the price back to normal i doubt anyone will complain anymore. Now the problem is what to do with these outlets and girls robbing us bros during fire now. If the prices still does not come down after the covid, i rather the government close down all the outlets, we will support overseas.

The rest of us can just pound sand for all the government and society cares. Because God forbid we have fun in this society however we want to as individuals, we just exist to contribute to economic growth statistics and lead squeaky clean lives as dictated by conservative and religious leaders in society. Sure, boycott and don't pay the stupid prices KTVs and vice generally is commanding now in Singapore. But we have to be realistic and recognise that it's not likely to improve the market to become a buyers' market anytime soon.

[subidowa]

Originally Posted by TheIdesOfMarch

I don't mind the idea of us killing off bad KTV bistro outlets who rip us off with their prices through AV reports and subsequent raids on their premises. The thing I worry about is that whacking these black sheep outlets will merely give the government even more justification to permanently hamstring and kill off nightlife entertainment and vice in Singapore for good. It won't be a case of kill one to set an example to the rest. It'll be a case of the government taking a sledgehammer to nightlife KTVs, bars, pubs etc wholesale with no prejudice whatsoever. Its already quite clear this is what they're doing when they're OK with nightlife outlets reopening and pivoting to F&B (as many bars and pubs and KTVs have done), and opening up enough of society and business/public venues to make the shutdown of nightlife entertainment and legal vice in GL totally irrelevant in significance to combat this phony pandemic we live in. Somehow a bar/nightclub/KTV converted to an F&B outlet, serving alcohol alongside food to make it F&B, till 1030pm every night is okay in terms of COVID risk, and yet letting them stay as nightlife drinking/entertainment outlets isn't? Even legit family friendly chains like Teo Heng have not escaped this blanket treatment, and the government doesn't give a shit.

Bottomline is, we are stuck in a lose lose scenario here. We pay through the nose and get ripped off by nightlife and legalised/undertable vice operating in KTVs because the market now is one of increasingly pent up demand faced with limited supply. We boycott those that overcharge and report them in to get them raided and shut down, we risk killing off the entire industry leaving us with blue balls, as if boycotting the majority of KTVs that are ripping us off won't do the same to us too. The way vice and nightlife entertainment is looking like now is increasingly one which only the rich can pay to afford and play. And with the sort of money they've saved up from not being able to travel over the past year and the foreseeable future, they'll have plenty to splash without a care in the world, and they can singlehandedly keep the KTV industry with its insanely inflated prices afloat more than your average Joe Spender can as a whole community. Think of it like a stock bubble, like what we're seeing in tech now.

The rest of us can just pound sand for all the government and society cares. Because God forbid we have fun in this society however we want to as individuals, we just exist to contribute to economic growth statistics and lead squeaky clean lives as dictated by conservative and religious leaders in society. Sure, boycott and don't pay the stupid prices KTVs and vice generally is commanding now in Singapore. But we have to be realistic and recognise that it's not likely to improve the market to become a buyers' market anytime soon.

Bro, you england very power so i will reply the simplest i can in response to your concerns.


I don't mind the idea of us killing off bad KTV bistro outlets who rip us off with their prices through AV reports and subsequent raids on their premises.
--- pls do so.


The thing I worry about is that whacking these black sheep outlets will merely give the government even more justification to permanently hamstring and kill off nightlife entertainment and vice in Singapore for good. It won't be a case of kill one to set an example to the rest. It'll be a case of the government taking a sledgehammer to nightlife KTVs, bars, pubs etc wholesale with no prejudice whatsoever. Its already quite clear this is what they're doing when they're OK with nightlife outlets reopening and pivoting to F&B (as many bars and pubs and KTVs have done), and opening up enough of society and business/public venues to make the shutdown of nightlife entertainment and legal vice in GL totally irrelevant in significance to combat this phony pandemic we live in. Somehow a bar/nightclub/KTV converted to an F&B outlet, serving alcohol alongside food to make it F&B, till 1030pm every night is okay in terms of COVID risk, and yet letting them stay as nightlife drinking/entertainment outlets isn't? Even legit family friendly chains like Teo Heng have not escaped this blanket treatment, and the government doesn't give a shit.

Teo heng fall is because the business is a proper business. They stick to pay employees in full even in hard times and do not want to tarnish their reputations by becoming like bistros with girls entertaining customers and charging high tips. However, even how hard they try to survive, rental still must be paid. So kowtow to the boss of Teo Heng, i respect you much more than those despicable outlets who are still surviving now ripping us bros

PLease wack those black sheeps and don't worry about affecting the nightlife industry bros. Just like i mentioned early, rental still need to be paid and rental also need someone to pay. If government ban all nightlife, who can they collect the taxes and rentals from? CQ and BQ stay there do what? Will tourists still come to SG in that case of no night life at all and purely working? There is too much to consider, do not worry bros, government will not totally kill off nightlife. Maybe just alter a few things
and regulations nia. We still can play after this whole covid sage ends.

Bottomline is, we are stuck in a lose lose scenario here. We pay through the nose and get ripped off by nightlife and legalised/undertable vice operating in KTVs because the market now is one of increasingly pent up demand faced with limited supply. We boycott those that overcharge and report them in to get them raided and shut down, we risk killing off the entire industry leaving us with blue balls, as if boycotting the majority of KTVs that are ripping us off won't do the same to us too. The way vice and nightlife entertainment is looking like now is increasingly one which only the rich can pay to afford and play. And with the sort of money they've saved up from not being able to travel over the past year and the foreseeable future, they'll have plenty to splash without a care in the world, and they can singlehandedly keep the KTV industry with its insanely inflated prices afloat more than your average Joe Spender can as a whole community. Think of it like a stock bubble, like what we're seeing in tech now.

Bros, again do not worry about killing off the whole industry and no where to play. The government won't kill off this lucrative incomes for example like cigarette tax. Do so much bad advertising liao but u still can smoke what. The worst case is they change the playing style a bit only. Don't forget at the same time. Over in the world like Thailand (this especially since so many reports of street workers jobless etc), Cambordia, Malaysia or some other countries who are still recovering from this stupid covid is ever ready to welcome back the nightlife industry. Once this covid is over, bros can fly overseas to play around. I won't mention too much with regards the amount of fun you will get there and the prices you will pay only. So don't worry about no playing.

The problem statement now is the outlets and girls are over charging us while we are stuck here. So the point is report them and make them disappear forever. Let those who sincerely want to continue do business stay forever. Why there is this dulan around those outlets and girls. Because the amount they ask for is ridiculous. I like calculation, i will give u break down again. Room charge 300? martell 238? girls tip 100 and butterfly somemore. momm tip 100? waiters tip? All these haven't include tabao right. I read some bros said tapau 700-800 ST? I don't need to calculate. U bros just roughly add up and it already exceed 1000 per night. With this amount, you can book a return flight to the country you want to play. Stay in their 5 stars hotel and including ur funs. All in. The prices now doesn't justify the fun bros are having now. If that is the way the outlets wanna play. I rather the gov close all the oulets and introduce new concepts. So don't worry. government won't close down all the outlets, only the ones we targeting. Worse come to worst, there is always overseas once covid is finished. After this whole covid saga and the price back to normal i doubt anyone will complain anymore. Now the problem is what to do with these outlets and girls robbing us bros during fire now. If the prices still does not come down after the covid, i rather the government close down all the outlets, we will support overseas.

The rest of us can just pound sand for all the government and society cares. Because God forbid we have fun in this society however we want to as individuals, we just exist to contribute to economic growth statistics and lead squeaky clean lives as dictated by conservative and religious leaders in society. Sure, boycott and don't pay the stupid prices KTVs and vice generally is commanding now in Singapore. But we have to be realistic and recognise that it's not likely to improve the market to become a buyers' market anytime soon.

[subidowa]

Originally Posted by TheIdesOfMarch

I don't mind the idea of us killing off bad KTV bistro outlets who rip us off with their prices through AV reports and subsequent raids on their premises. The thing I worry about is that whacking these black sheep outlets will merely give the government even more justification to permanently hamstring and kill off nightlife entertainment and vice in Singapore for good. It won't be a case of kill one to set an example to the rest. It'll be a case of the government taking a sledgehammer to nightlife KTVs, bars, pubs etc wholesale with no prejudice whatsoever. Its already quite clear this is what they're doing when they're OK with nightlife outlets reopening and pivoting to F&B (as many bars and pubs and KTVs have done), and opening up enough of society and business/public venues to make the shutdown of nightlife entertainment and legal vice in GL totally irrelevant in significance to combat this phony pandemic we live in. Somehow a bar/nightclub/KTV converted to an F&B outlet, serving alcohol alongside food to make it F&B, till 1030pm every night is okay in terms of COVID risk, and yet letting them stay as nightlife drinking/entertainment outlets isn't? Even legit family friendly chains like Teo Heng have not escaped this blanket treatment, and the government doesn't give a shit.

Bottomline is, we are stuck in a lose lose scenario here. We pay through the nose and get ripped off by nightlife and legalised/undertable vice operating in KTVs because the market now is one of increasingly pent up demand faced with limited supply. We boycott those that overcharge and report them in to get them raided and shut down, we risk killing off the entire industry leaving us with blue balls, as if boycotting the majority of KTVs that are ripping us off won't do the same to us too. The way vice and nightlife entertainment is looking like now is increasingly one which only the rich can pay to afford and play. And with the sort of money they've saved up from not being able to travel over the past year and the foreseeable future, they'll have plenty to splash without a care in the world, and they can singlehandedly keep the KTV industry with its insanely inflated prices afloat more than your average Joe Spender can as a whole community. Think of it like a stock bubble, like what we're seeing in tech now.

The rest of us can just pound sand for all the government and society cares. Because God forbid we have fun in this society however we want to as individuals, we just exist to contribute to economic growth statistics and lead squeaky clean lives as dictated by conservative and religious leaders in society. Sure, boycott and don't pay the stupid prices KTVs and vice generally is commanding now in Singapore. But we have to be realistic and recognise that it's not likely to improve the market to become a buyers' market anytime soon.

Bro, you england very power so i will reply the simplest i can in response to your concerns.


I don't mind the idea of us killing off bad KTV bistro outlets who rip us off with their prices through AV reports and subsequent raids on their premises.
--- pls do so.


The thing I worry about is that whacking these black sheep outlets will merely give the government even more justification to permanently hamstring and kill off nightlife entertainment and vice in Singapore for good. It won't be a case of kill one to set an example to the rest. It'll be a case of the government taking a sledgehammer to nightlife KTVs, bars, pubs etc wholesale with no prejudice whatsoever. Its already quite clear this is what they're doing when they're OK with nightlife outlets reopening and pivoting to F&B (as many bars and pubs and KTVs have done), and opening up enough of society and business/public venues to make the shutdown of nightlife entertainment and legal vice in GL totally irrelevant in significance to combat this phony pandemic we live in. Somehow a bar/nightclub/KTV converted to an F&B outlet, serving alcohol alongside food to make it F&B, till 1030pm every night is okay in terms of COVID risk, and yet letting them stay as nightlife drinking/entertainment outlets isn't? Even legit family friendly chains like Teo Heng have not escaped this blanket treatment, and the government doesn't give a shit.

Teo heng fall is because the business is a proper business. They stick to pay employees in full even in hard times and do not want to tarnish their reputations by becoming like bistros with girls entertaining customers and charging high tips. However, even how hard they try to survive, rental still must be paid. So kowtow to the boss of Teo Heng, i respect you much more than those despicable outlets who are still surviving now ripping us bros

PLease wack those black sheeps and don't worry about affecting the nightlife industry bros. Just like i mentioned early, rental still need to be paid and rental also need someone to pay. If government ban all nightlife, who can they collect the taxes and rentals from? CQ and BQ stay there do what? Will tourists still come to SG in that case of no night life at all and purely working? There is too much to consider, do not worry bros, government will not totally kill off nightlife. Maybe just alter a few things
and regulations nia. We still can play after this whole covid sage ends.

Bottomline is, we are stuck in a lose lose scenario here. We pay through the nose and get ripped off by nightlife and legalised/undertable vice operating in KTVs because the market now is one of increasingly pent up demand faced with limited supply. We boycott those that overcharge and report them in to get them raided and shut down, we risk killing off the entire industry leaving us with blue balls, as if boycotting the majority of KTVs that are ripping us off won't do the same to us too. The way vice and nightlife entertainment is looking like now is increasingly one which only the rich can pay to afford and play. And with the sort of money they've saved up from not being able to travel over the past year and the foreseeable future, they'll have plenty to splash without a care in the world, and they can singlehandedly keep the KTV industry with its insanely inflated prices afloat more than your average Joe Spender can as a whole community. Think of it like a stock bubble, like what we're seeing in tech now.

Bros, again do not worry about killing off the whole industry and no where to play. The government won't kill off this lucrative incomes for example like cigarette tax. Do so much bad advertising liao but u still can smoke what. The worst case is they change the playing style a bit only. Don't forget at the same time. Over in the world like Thailand (this especially since so many reports of street workers jobless etc), Cambordia, Malaysia or some other countries who are still recovering from this stupid covid is ever ready to welcome back the nightlife industry. Once this covid is over, bros can fly overseas to play around. I won't mention too much with regards the amount of fun you will get there and the prices you will pay only. So don't worry about no playing.

The problem statement now is the outlets and girls are over charging us while we are stuck here. So the point is report them and make them disappear forever. Let those who sincerely want to continue do business stay forever. Why there is this dulan around those outlets and girls. Because the amount they ask for is ridiculous. I like calculation, i will give u break down again. Room charge 300? martell 238? girls tip 100 and butterfly somemore. momm tip 100? waiters tip? All these haven't include tabao right. I read some bros said tapau 700-800 ST? I don't need to calculate. U bros just roughly add up and it already exceed 1000 per night. With this amount, you can book a return flight to the country you want to play. Stay in their 5 stars hotel and including ur funs. All in. The prices now doesn't justify the fun bros are having now. If that is the way the outlets wanna play. I rather the gov close all the oulets and introduce new concepts. So don't worry. government won't close down all the outlets, only the ones we targeting. Worse come to worst, there is always overseas once covid is finished. After this whole covid saga and the price back to normal i doubt anyone will complain anymore. Now the problem is what to do with these outlets and girls robbing us bros during fire now. If the prices still does not come down after the covid, i rather the government close down all the outlets, we will support overseas.

The rest of us can just pound sand for all the government and society cares. Because God forbid we have fun in this society however we want to as individuals, we just exist to contribute to economic growth statistics and lead squeaky clean lives as dictated by conservative and religious leaders in society. Sure, boycott and don't pay the stupid prices KTVs and vice generally is commanding now in Singapore. But we have to be realistic and recognise that it's not likely to improve the market to become a buyers' market anytime soon.

[subidowa]

Originally Posted by TheIdesOfMarch

I don't mind the idea of us killing off bad KTV bistro outlets who rip us off with their prices through AV reports and subsequent raids on their premises. The thing I worry about is that whacking these black sheep outlets will merely give the government even more justification to permanently hamstring and kill off nightlife entertainment and vice in Singapore for good. It won't be a case of kill one to set an example to the rest. It'll be a case of the government taking a sledgehammer to nightlife KTVs, bars, pubs etc wholesale with no prejudice whatsoever. Its already quite clear this is what they're doing when they're OK with nightlife outlets reopening and pivoting to F&B (as many bars and pubs and KTVs have done), and opening up enough of society and business/public venues to make the shutdown of nightlife entertainment and legal vice in GL totally irrelevant in significance to combat this phony pandemic we live in. Somehow a bar/nightclub/KTV converted to an F&B outlet, serving alcohol alongside food to make it F&B, till 1030pm every night is okay in terms of COVID risk, and yet letting them stay as nightlife drinking/entertainment outlets isn't? Even legit family friendly chains like Teo Heng have not escaped this blanket treatment, and the government doesn't give a shit.

Bottomline is, we are stuck in a lose lose scenario here. We pay through the nose and get ripped off by nightlife and legalised/undertable vice operating in KTVs because the market now is one of increasingly pent up demand faced with limited supply. We boycott those that overcharge and report them in to get them raided and shut down, we risk killing off the entire industry leaving us with blue balls, as if boycotting the majority of KTVs that are ripping us off won't do the same to us too. The way vice and nightlife entertainment is looking like now is increasingly one which only the rich can pay to afford and play. And with the sort of money they've saved up from not being able to travel over the past year and the foreseeable future, they'll have plenty to splash without a care in the world, and they can singlehandedly keep the KTV industry with its insanely inflated prices afloat more than your average Joe Spender can as a whole community. Think of it like a stock bubble, like what we're seeing in tech now.

The rest of us can just pound sand for all the government and society cares. Because God forbid we have fun in this society however we want to as individuals, we just exist to contribute to economic growth statistics and lead squeaky clean lives as dictated by conservative and religious leaders in society. Sure, boycott and don't pay the stupid prices KTVs and vice generally is commanding now in Singapore. But we have to be realistic and recognise that it's not likely to improve the market to become a buyers' market anytime soon.

Bro, you england very power so i will reply the simplest i can in response to your concerns.


I don't mind the idea of us killing off bad KTV bistro outlets who rip us off with their prices through AV reports and subsequent raids on their premises.
--- pls do so.


The thing I worry about is that whacking these black sheep outlets will merely give the government even more justification to permanently hamstring and kill off nightlife entertainment and vice in Singapore for good. It won't be a case of kill one to set an example to the rest. It'll be a case of the government taking a sledgehammer to nightlife KTVs, bars, pubs etc wholesale with no prejudice whatsoever. Its already quite clear this is what they're doing when they're OK with nightlife outlets reopening and pivoting to F&B (as many bars and pubs and KTVs have done), and opening up enough of society and business/public venues to make the shutdown of nightlife entertainment and legal vice in GL totally irrelevant in significance to combat this phony pandemic we live in. Somehow a bar/nightclub/KTV converted to an F&B outlet, serving alcohol alongside food to make it F&B, till 1030pm every night is okay in terms of COVID risk, and yet letting them stay as nightlife drinking/entertainment outlets isn't? Even legit family friendly chains like Teo Heng have not escaped this blanket treatment, and the government doesn't give a shit.

Teo heng fall is because the business is a proper business. They stick to pay employees in full even in hard times and do not want to tarnish their reputations by becoming like bistros with girls entertaining customers and charging high tips. However, even how hard they try to survive, rental still must be paid. So kowtow to the boss of Teo Heng, i respect you much more than those despicable outlets who are still surviving now ripping us bros

PLease wack those black sheeps and don't worry about affecting the nightlife industry bros. Just like i mentioned early, rental still need to be paid and rental also need someone to pay. If government ban all nightlife, who can they collect the taxes and rentals from? CQ and BQ stay there do what? Will tourists still come to SG in that case of no night life at all and purely working? There is too much to consider, do not worry bros, government will not totally kill off nightlife. Maybe just alter a few things
and regulations nia. We still can play after this whole covid sage ends.

Bottomline is, we are stuck in a lose lose scenario here. We pay through the nose and get ripped off by nightlife and legalised/undertable vice operating in KTVs because the market now is one of increasingly pent up demand faced with limited supply. We boycott those that overcharge and report them in to get them raided and shut down, we risk killing off the entire industry leaving us with blue balls, as if boycotting the majority of KTVs that are ripping us off won't do the same to us too. The way vice and nightlife entertainment is looking like now is increasingly one which only the rich can pay to afford and play. And with the sort of money they've saved up from not being able to travel over the past year and the foreseeable future, they'll have plenty to splash without a care in the world, and they can singlehandedly keep the KTV industry with its insanely inflated prices afloat more than your average Joe Spender can as a whole community. Think of it like a stock bubble, like what we're seeing in tech now.

Bros, again do not worry about killing off the whole industry and no where to play. The government won't kill off this lucrative incomes for example like cigarette tax. Do so much bad advertising liao but u still can smoke what. The worst case is they change the playing style a bit only. Don't forget at the same time. Over in the world like Thailand (this especially since so many reports of street workers jobless etc), Cambordia, Malaysia or some other countries who are still recovering from this stupid covid is ever ready to welcome back the nightlife industry. Once this covid is over, bros can fly overseas to play around. I won't mention too much with regards the amount of fun you will get there and the prices you will pay only. So don't worry about no playing.

The problem statement now is the outlets and girls are over charging us while we are stuck here. So the point is report them and make them disappear forever. Let those who sincerely want to continue do business stay forever. Why there is this dulan around those outlets and girls. Because the amount they ask for is ridiculous. I like calculation, i will give u break down again. Room charge 300? martell 238? girls tip 100 and butterfly somemore. momm tip 100? waiters tip? All these haven't include tabao right. I read some bros said tapau 700-800 ST? I don't need to calculate. U bros just roughly add up and it already exceed 1000 per night. With this amount, you can book a return flight to the country you want to play. Stay in their 5 stars hotel and including ur funs. All in. The prices now doesn't justify the fun bros are having now. If that is the way the outlets wanna play. I rather the gov close all the oulets and introduce new concepts. So don't worry. government won't close down all the outlets, only the ones we targeting. Worse come to worst, there is always overseas once covid is finished. After this whole covid saga and the price back to normal i doubt anyone will complain anymore. Now the problem is what to do with these outlets and girls robbing us bros during fire now. If the prices still does not come down after the covid, i rather the government close down all the outlets, we will support overseas.

The rest of us can just pound sand for all the government and society cares. Because God forbid we have fun in this society however we want to as individuals, we just exist to contribute to economic growth statistics and lead squeaky clean lives as dictated by conservative and religious leaders in society. Sure, boycott and don't pay the stupid prices KTVs and vice generally is commanding now in Singapore. But we have to be realistic and recognise that it's not likely to improve the market to become a buyers' market anytime soon.

[subidowa]

Originally Posted by TheIdesOfMarch

I don't mind the idea of us killing off bad KTV bistro outlets who rip us off with their prices through AV reports and subsequent raids on their premises. The thing I worry about is that whacking these black sheep outlets will merely give the government even more justification to permanently hamstring and kill off nightlife entertainment and vice in Singapore for good. It won't be a case of kill one to set an example to the rest. It'll be a case of the government taking a sledgehammer to nightlife KTVs, bars, pubs etc wholesale with no prejudice whatsoever. Its already quite clear this is what they're doing when they're OK with nightlife outlets reopening and pivoting to F&B (as many bars and pubs and KTVs have done), and opening up enough of society and business/public venues to make the shutdown of nightlife entertainment and legal vice in GL totally irrelevant in significance to combat this phony pandemic we live in. Somehow a bar/nightclub/KTV converted to an F&B outlet, serving alcohol alongside food to make it F&B, till 1030pm every night is okay in terms of COVID risk, and yet letting them stay as nightlife drinking/entertainment outlets isn't? Even legit family friendly chains like Teo Heng have not escaped this blanket treatment, and the government doesn't give a shit.

Bottomline is, we are stuck in a lose lose scenario here. We pay through the nose and get ripped off by nightlife and legalised/undertable vice operating in KTVs because the market now is one of increasingly pent up demand faced with limited supply. We boycott those that overcharge and report them in to get them raided and shut down, we risk killing off the entire industry leaving us with blue balls, as if boycotting the majority of KTVs that are ripping us off won't do the same to us too. The way vice and nightlife entertainment is looking like now is increasingly one which only the rich can pay to afford and play. And with the sort of money they've saved up from not being able to travel over the past year and the foreseeable future, they'll have plenty to splash without a care in the world, and they can singlehandedly keep the KTV industry with its insanely inflated prices afloat more than your average Joe Spender can as a whole community. Think of it like a stock bubble, like what we're seeing in tech now.

The rest of us can just pound sand for all the government and society cares. Because God forbid we have fun in this society however we want to as individuals, we just exist to contribute to economic growth statistics and lead squeaky clean lives as dictated by conservative and religious leaders in society. Sure, boycott and don't pay the stupid prices KTVs and vice generally is commanding now in Singapore. But we have to be realistic and recognise that it's not likely to improve the market to become a buyers' market anytime soon.

Bro, you england very power so i will reply the simplest i can in response to your concerns.


I don't mind the idea of us killing off bad KTV bistro outlets who rip us off with their prices through AV reports and subsequent raids on their premises.
--- pls do so.


The thing I worry about is that whacking these black sheep outlets will merely give the government even more justification to permanently hamstring and kill off nightlife entertainment and vice in Singapore for good. It won't be a case of kill one to set an example to the rest. It'll be a case of the government taking a sledgehammer to nightlife KTVs, bars, pubs etc wholesale with no prejudice whatsoever. Its already quite clear this is what they're doing when they're OK with nightlife outlets reopening and pivoting to F&B (as many bars and pubs and KTVs have done), and opening up enough of society and business/public venues to make the shutdown of nightlife entertainment and legal vice in GL totally irrelevant in significance to combat this phony pandemic we live in. Somehow a bar/nightclub/KTV converted to an F&B outlet, serving alcohol alongside food to make it F&B, till 1030pm every night is okay in terms of COVID risk, and yet letting them stay as nightlife drinking/entertainment outlets isn't? Even legit family friendly chains like Teo Heng have not escaped this blanket treatment, and the government doesn't give a shit.

Teo heng fall is because the business is a proper business. They stick to pay employees in full even in hard times and do not want to tarnish their reputations by becoming like bistros with girls entertaining customers and charging high tips. However, even how hard they try to survive, rental still must be paid. So kowtow to the boss of Teo Heng, i respect you much more than those despicable outlets who are still surviving now ripping us bros

PLease wack those black sheeps and don't worry about affecting the nightlife industry bros. Just like i mentioned early, rental still need to be paid and rental also need someone to pay. If government ban all nightlife, who can they collect the taxes and rentals from? CQ and BQ stay there do what? Will tourists still come to SG in that case of no night life at all and purely working? There is too much to consider, do not worry bros, government will not totally kill off nightlife. Maybe just alter a few things
and regulations nia. We still can play after this whole covid sage ends.

Bottomline is, we are stuck in a lose lose scenario here. We pay through the nose and get ripped off by nightlife and legalised/undertable vice operating in KTVs because the market now is one of increasingly pent up demand faced with limited supply. We boycott those that overcharge and report them in to get them raided and shut down, we risk killing off the entire industry leaving us with blue balls, as if boycotting the majority of KTVs that are ripping us off won't do the same to us too. The way vice and nightlife entertainment is looking like now is increasingly one which only the rich can pay to afford and play. And with the sort of money they've saved up from not being able to travel over the past year and the foreseeable future, they'll have plenty to splash without a care in the world, and they can singlehandedly keep the KTV industry with its insanely inflated prices afloat more than your average Joe Spender can as a whole community. Think of it like a stock bubble, like what we're seeing in tech now.

Bros, again do not worry about killing off the whole industry and no where to play. The government won't kill off this lucrative incomes for example like cigarette tax. Do so much bad advertising liao but u still can smoke what. The worst case is they change the playing style a bit only. Don't forget at the same time. Over in the world like Thailand (this especially since so many reports of street workers jobless etc), Cambordia, Malaysia or some other countries who are still recovering from this stupid covid is ever ready to welcome back the nightlife industry. Once this covid is over, bros can fly overseas to play around. I won't mention too much with regards the amount of fun you will get there and the prices you will pay only. So don't worry about no playing.

The problem statement now is the outlets and girls are over charging us while we are stuck here. So the point is report them and make them disappear forever. Let those who sincerely want to continue do business stay forever. Why there is this dulan around those outlets and girls. Because the amount they ask for is ridiculous. I like calculation, i will give u break down again. Room charge 300? martell 238? girls tip 100 and butterfly somemore. momm tip 100? waiters tip? All these haven't include tabao right. I read some bros said tapau 700-800 ST? I don't need to calculate. U bros just roughly add up and it already exceed 1000 per night. With this amount, you can book a return flight to the country you want to play. Stay in their 5 stars hotel and including ur funs. All in. The prices now doesn't justify the fun bros are having now. If that is the way the outlets wanna play. I rather the gov close all the oulets and introduce new concepts. So don't worry. government won't close down all the outlets, only the ones we targeting. Worse come to worst, there is always overseas once covid is finished. After this whole covid saga and the price back to normal i doubt anyone will complain anymore. Now the problem is what to do with these outlets and girls robbing us bros during fire now. If the prices still does not come down after the covid, i rather the government close down all the outlets, we will support overseas.

The rest of us can just pound sand for all the government and society cares. Because God forbid we have fun in this society however we want to as individuals, we just exist to contribute to economic growth statistics and lead squeaky clean lives as dictated by conservative and religious leaders in society. Sure, boycott and don't pay the stupid prices KTVs and vice generally is commanding now in Singapore. But we have to be realistic and recognise that it's not likely to improve the market to become a buyers' market anytime soon.

[spidey111223]

I support. I'm not going to any bistros, etc. for now.
If need, go spa instead.

[Underhidden]

Originally Posted by subidowa

Bro, you england very power so i will reply the simplest i can in response to your concerns.


I don't mind the idea of us killing off bad KTV bistro outlets who rip us off with their prices through AV reports and subsequent raids on their premises.
--- pls do so.


The thing I worry about is that whacking these black sheep outlets will merely give the government even more justification to permanently hamstring and kill off nightlife entertainment and vice in Singapore for good. It won't be a case of kill one to set an example to the rest. It'll be a case of the government taking a sledgehammer to nightlife KTVs, bars, pubs etc wholesale with no prejudice whatsoever. Its already quite clear this is what they're doing when they're OK with nightlife outlets reopening and pivoting to F&B (as many bars and pubs and KTVs have done), and opening up enough of society and business/public venues to make the shutdown of nightlife entertainment and legal vice in GL totally irrelevant in significance to combat this phony pandemic we live in. Somehow a bar/nightclub/KTV converted to an F&B outlet, serving alcohol alongside food to make it F&B, till 1030pm every night is okay in terms of COVID risk, and yet letting them stay as nightlife drinking/entertainment outlets isn't? Even legit family friendly chains like Teo Heng have not escaped this blanket treatment, and the government doesn't give a shit.

Teo heng fall is because the business is a proper business. They stick to pay employees in full even in hard times and do not want to tarnish their reputations by becoming like bistros with girls entertaining customers and charging high tips. However, even how hard they try to survive, rental still must be paid. So kowtow to the boss of Teo Heng, i respect you much more than those despicable outlets who are still surviving now ripping us bros

PLease wack those black sheeps and don't worry about affecting the nightlife industry bros. Just like i mentioned early, rental still need to be paid and rental also need someone to pay. If government ban all nightlife, who can they collect the taxes and rentals from? CQ and BQ stay there do what? Will tourists still come to SG in that case of no night life at all and purely working? There is too much to consider, do not worry bros, government will not totally kill off nightlife. Maybe just alter a few things
and regulations nia. We still can play after this whole covid sage ends.

Bottomline is, we are stuck in a lose lose scenario here. We pay through the nose and get ripped off by nightlife and legalised/undertable vice operating in KTVs because the market now is one of increasingly pent up demand faced with limited supply. We boycott those that overcharge and report them in to get them raided and shut down, we risk killing off the entire industry leaving us with blue balls, as if boycotting the majority of KTVs that are ripping us off won't do the same to us too. The way vice and nightlife entertainment is looking like now is increasingly one which only the rich can pay to afford and play. And with the sort of money they've saved up from not being able to travel over the past year and the foreseeable future, they'll have plenty to splash without a care in the world, and they can singlehandedly keep the KTV industry with its insanely inflated prices afloat more than your average Joe Spender can as a whole community. Think of it like a stock bubble, like what we're seeing in tech now.

Bros, again do not worry about killing off the whole industry and no where to play. The government won't kill off this lucrative incomes for example like cigarette tax. Do so much bad advertising liao but u still can smoke what. The worst case is they change the playing style a bit only. Don't forget at the same time. Over in the world like Thailand (this especially since so many reports of street workers jobless etc), Cambordia, Malaysia or some other countries who are still recovering from this stupid covid is ever ready to welcome back the nightlife industry. Once this covid is over, bros can fly overseas to play around. I won't mention too much with regards the amount of fun you will get there and the prices you will pay only. So don't worry about no playing.

The problem statement now is the outlets and girls are over charging us while we are stuck here. So the point is report them and make them disappear forever. Let those who sincerely want to continue do business stay forever. Why there is this dulan around those outlets and girls. Because the amount they ask for is ridiculous. I like calculation, i will give u break down again. Room charge 300? martell 238? girls tip 100 and butterfly somemore. momm tip 100? waiters tip? All these haven't include tabao right. I read some bros said tapau 700-800 ST? I don't need to calculate. U bros just roughly add up and it already exceed 1000 per night. With this amount, you can book a return flight to the country you want to play. Stay in their 5 stars hotel and including ur funs. All in. The prices now doesn't justify the fun bros are having now. If that is the way the outlets wanna play. I rather the gov close all the oulets and introduce new concepts. So don't worry. government won't close down all the outlets, only the ones we targeting. Worse come to worst, there is always overseas once covid is finished. After this whole covid saga and the price back to normal i doubt anyone will complain anymore. Now the problem is what to do with these outlets and girls robbing us bros during fire now. If the prices still does not come down after the covid, i rather the government close down all the outlets, we will support overseas.

The rest of us can just pound sand for all the government and society cares. Because God forbid we have fun in this society however we want to as individuals, we just exist to contribute to economic growth statistics and lead squeaky clean lives as dictated by conservative and religious leaders in society. Sure, boycott and don't pay the stupid prices KTVs and vice generally is commanding now in Singapore. But we have to be realistic and recognise that it's not likely to improve the market to become a buyers' market anytime soon.

I am presuming that the ladies in these places are on legal basis as it is SG and there are sufficient inspections even pre covid to make illegal workers a huge risk. Certainly not in prominent operations. Thus, surely IRAS should be taking a long hard look at what these people are declaring ? And the businesses. Tips are income under SG Tax law

[subidowa]

Paiseh bros. I didn't spam u all. I dunno is the system fault keep on reposting what i submitted once nia or is it they try to make me look like spamming and kick me out of this topic.

[subidowa]

Wa i think someone is trying to make me looking like spamming here in order to get me stop their ridiculous pricing. The spamming repeat every 5 minutes. How can anyone do that so accurately and so consistently unless a bot? Someone can even control the system?

[subidowa]

Originally Posted by Gyozai

If only it was that simple. This is an almost impossible task because end of day there will always be people who are willing to pay this price and have fun. But I agree that the current prices is ridiculous and also playability is not there as well. We are even forced to buy stupid finger food at fine dining prices.

It is a challenging time for everyone so why should these ktv bistros earn more from us when everyone is having a hard time to make ends meet.

Bro, nothing is as difficult if only u try. Yes there are bros who are willing to pay and cant stoo them. We can only help them by reducing their costs and keeping the prices lower. As such we can allow help those rest of the bros who don't earn them much.

Yes bro. Even you question at this period of time how can the outlets earn more from CITIZENS when everyone is having a hard time. Everyone is having a hard time except the outlets and yet they use that as an excuse to further exploit my bros. Bros shouldn't let them earn/rip ur hard earned money so easily.

[subidowa]

Originally Posted by hannibald

Very simple, if cannot afford or not willing to pay additional, just stay at home and PCC. Let those who can afford and willing to be robert enjoy themselves.

Where there is demand, there is supply. This is simple economics. You report and kill off one shop, the remaining shops will just simply continue to operate and even charge higher cos of the demand and the risk involve. No one will start to give you discount just because it become more dangerous to operate. Like that they might as well go stop providing vice activities?

It is the same for the girls, if it becomes more dangerous for them to work, then they will naturally charge higher, so that it will be worth their while. If not, they might as well go home better.

Just stay away from these KTV joints during this period and hopefully as more become vaccinated, the govt will allow more girls to come to singapore and we can then have our fun at a more affordable price.

To be clear, i have nothing against the outlets or bros who are willing to spend more. The discussion here is just about matching the price with respect to the playability and fun only.

However, the problem statement now is price double up and fun many many times down and limited drinking hours.

Very simple, if cannot afford or not willing to pay additional, just stay at home and PCC. Let those who can afford and willing to be robert enjoy themselves.
I think most bros can afford but unwilling to pay so much for the kind of playability they are having. Yes for those unwilling to pay like me we can stay home do other stuffs. However, i still see bros who wanna be Roberts as my fellow SINGAPOREANS. If cannot stop them from going to spend also try to lighten their spendings as the current price makes no sense at all.

Where there is demand, there is supply. This is simple economics. You report and kill off one shop, the remaining shops will just simply continue to operate and even charge higher cos of the demand and the risk involve. No one will start to give you discount just because it become more dangerous to operate. Like that they might as well go stop providing vice activities?
- no correct. We should kill one by one off those BAD SHEEPS so we know which are the good ones remaining. If those that remain continue to charge even higher that means those are also not good ones. To be killed on the next list. If all the outlets are like that, as i mentioned earlier before, rather the GOV take them all down. We will support overseas.

It is the same for the girls, if it becomes more dangerous for them to work, then they will naturally charge higher, so that it will be worth their while. If not, they might as well go home better.
Seriously, i do not get it why you keep on mentioning dangerous for them to work. We are talking about normal Bistros operating under FNB license only right. What is illegal for them if they stick to the rules? I think using risks as an excuse to charge higher is bullshit. The true is the outlets wanna open sticking to the rules and limiting our play and yet using this as excuse to up our price. Bros ask yourselves, what thing you do during drinking till 2230 is illegal till you have to pay for them taking risk pricing? If the girls wanna go back and find that they can make money better elsewhere, SINGAPORE never stop them ah. The flights are always there just need to pay and quarantine nia. What is stopping them???? So they always wanna continue stay here ripping my fellow SINGAPOREANS?

Just stay away from these KTV joints during this period and hopefully as more become vaccinated, the govt will allow more girls to come to singapore and we can then have our fun at a more affordable price

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The last thing to worry about is this ktv joint suddenly disappear beacuse anyone tip off some bad eggs ktv joint will not disappear anytime soon because of that lol
100% confirm lol.