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Re: Sex Addiction? Vicious Cycle?

Besides the physical aspect of finding ML to release and fulfill our needs, there is also an emotional element which cannot be discounted.
There are times we shared with MLs our feelings and our thoughts which we cannot share with our partner or family members, be it a secret or social stigma. Some of us are seen as the perfect husband, bf or even goody colleagues who are faithful and law abiding. By going to MLs we can unlease our inner desires and emotions that we can misbehavior and still get accepted because we paid the price for it.
The experience can be therapeutic and in a way to make us feel so good and desirable. It is like we get our self worth and booster shot.

The flip side is we may not be able to pull ourselves out of it. There is a risk of getting addicted and worse still get KC with the ML. The amount of money spent can be excessive and over your means as what many bros have warned.

At the end of the day, we need to strike a balance and realise this is a just temporary relief. We need to get back to REALITY and accept that we cannot have everything according to our desires, whether we like it or not.
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Whenever I saw those MLs/WLs on wechat/ michat showing off their lavish and extravagant shopping, dining, going to casino, thoughts would flash up in my mind.

For stopping to visit them, stop funding them to their lifestyle, save the money and invest prudently. For every single cent, dollar that could securely earn me at least a 4% per annum would compoundently earns me tons of returns and in turn I would be the one showing-off on social media of my lifestyle.

It becomes a habit whenever my biological urge starts, I would look at my very positive investment account and give a good pat on myself for making the right choice. Spending a few hundred dollars to ease the instant male testosterone by these women are just not worth it.

For any average of $300-500/month that I saved and invested for the past 10years with an average of 12%......bros u can do your own calculations on how much I have accumulated.

That's IMO. No offence to any bros here.
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Old 15-08-2021, 12:23 PM
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Re: Sex Addiction? Vicious Cycle?

When young in poly or in the army. You earn so little how to cheong

until you old enough have money to cheong , then you got sick, cannot cheong


But I a little regret don't know how to cheong when young.
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Re: Sex Addiction? Vicious Cycle?

Getting sex addicted is bad.
Not only spending a lot of hard earn money but also put health at risk.
I have lower income colleague who borrow money in order to join others to cheong...

Spend within your own means and monitor your health condition as well.

Moderate fun is acceptable.

Of course for those who can do away with all these ML, FL etc would be great.
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Re: Sex Addiction? Vicious Cycle?

No choice unless you are born rich as a guy in today's world then you are hoseh. Otherwise you're f up

Nowadays especially in advance country women keep talks about gender equality.
They emphasize must earn the same as guy. No discrimination
But during a date, guy has to pay
For gifts, guy has to pay
For fuck, guy has to pay

If you earn lesser, girls look down on you

Not saying all are the same case but majority of the cases

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Re: Sex Addiction? Vicious Cycle?

Regardless you are rich and handsome or just an average joe, we all know that over indulging in commercial sex is a bad obsession that is not healthy for the mind and body.
It can destroy marriage, break your bank, hurt your health mentally / physically.

Even if you are attached with a perfect girl, at times you still want to go for it for the sake of the thrill of doing something forbidden and getting away with it. but as you become more daring u take bigger risk and that's where if you get caught then your marriage/bgr is over... no girl will accept her other half to eat outside.

If you are single, maybe less complicated but other than making you poorer, it may also cause you to feel low self esteem.

We ALL know that nothing good but all the bad consequences that comes with it... and the sad thing is each time we are still digging deeper and deeper into our own grave.
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Re: Sex Addiction? Vicious Cycle?

I don't think it's spending unwisely, if you have earn, you have the right to spend. You are not spending someone's else money for your own lifestyle.

Massage is therapeutic, massage is not just massage, it helps to relax, takes away part of stress and fix your muscle issues should you have one. So it's a good way to help fight metal issues as well.

I always take massage as a healing way.

Yes, there are also many ways to destress. I met a guy who spent $7,000 on a brompton during this pandemic, he say, sometimes it's not about spending lots of money is important, it is letting your mind do something you like to do is important. That money spent is like going for a treatment where only the person himself/herself only know what their brain likes to do.

So if you enjoy massage very much, go ahead with your hobby.
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I totally agree bro. Having a loving and serious relationship is what changes all that. Not financial pressures or lifestyle changes.

I can only hope that social, mask off events comes back soon so that we would have opportunities to meet girls and have that relationship once again.
Yes, I spend more during covid lock down than pre covid days.
Because many things cannot do and have to look for release to fill the emptiness which we cannot get from wife or gf.

For those without wives or gf, also spend more because no social events and have to go direct to find release.

Only people who are exceptional are those with FBs or wives/gf with a good sex lives.
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Old 15-08-2021, 05:21 PM
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Whenever I saw those MLs/WLs on wechat/ michat showing off their lavish and extravagant shopping, dining, going to casino, thoughts would flash up in my mind...
Those that flaunt their lifestyles and luxury items are usu SYT with sugar daddies. Those more experience and lao chiao ones will not booast or act poor

These are what i saw in their wechat moments
1) Swimming in their condos
2) attending yoga/ gym
3) wine & dine in high class places (some sinkies must hv invited them)
4) showing off the latest presents (LV bags) in recent Chinese V day
5) new handphones

And all of the suddenly, you realised they are leaving Singapore

Guess where they got all these money from?
On the other hand, those work very hard in TCM with no specials, they eat roti outside the shop during break.
Cook own food using instant cooker, walking home from workplace to save transport money.
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Actually if you cheong for 20-30 years and spending $2000 a month, don’t be surprised how much you spent and how much potentially you lost in terms of compounding.

Let’s say you start at age of 25 spending $1000 per month and today you are 45. The amount can be invested into a fund that gives u 10% returns. You would have lost $687,000 in your cheong journey. Lol! I have always been trying to stop my cheong journey but didn’t manage to until Covid19 struck! Wa! CB! I dump those money I usually spend cheonging into the stock market and I have accumulated more than $100k in just 1 year. Really fuck! Seriously, best to think using big head. 2 years can easily pay off a Tesla model 3.

Let’s say you are 35, 40, 45 or even 50 today, it is not too late to stop. The $$$ u started accumulating now can be massive. Of course once a while to release if there is really an awesome lady. Cap at 1 time a month max. Not 3 times a week. Ok bros?
Good advice but wa bro 100k in a year on investment/stock is quite a ridiculous return. A bit too good to be true unless you are saying you have a very high capital but for context you say 2k per month for chionging which equates to 24k a year and therefore your return is 4x. What about the risks?

I do appreciate the advice on chionging with a limit
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Those that flaunt their lifestyles and luxury items are usu SYT with sugar daddies. Those more experience and lao chiao ones will not booast or act poor

These are what i saw in their wechat moments
1) Swimming in their condos
2) attending yoga/ gym
3) wine & dine in high class places (some sinkies must hv invited them)
4) showing off the latest presents (LV bags) in recent Chinese V day
5) new handphones

And all of the suddenly, you realised they are leaving Singapore

Guess where they got all these money from?
On the other hand, those work very hard in TCM with no specials, they eat roti outside the shop during break.
Cook own food using instant cooker, walking home from workplace to save transport money.
True. Some of them have old sugar daddy. Occasionally I see some Chinese syt waking around with some old man doing shopping. Should be the rich sugar daddy.
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Those that flaunt their lifestyles and luxury items are usu SYT with sugar daddies. Those more experience and lao chiao ones will not booast or act poor

These are what i saw in their wechat moments
1) Swimming in their condos
2) attending yoga/ gym
3) wine & dine in high class places (some sinkies must hv invited them)
4) showing off the latest presents (LV bags) in recent Chinese V day
5) new handphones

And all of the suddenly, you realised they are leaving Singapore

Guess where they got all these money from?
On the other hand, those work very hard in TCM with no specials, they eat roti outside the shop during break.
Cook own food using instant cooker, walking home from workplace to save transport money.
yes but not all, and normally all this are charging more than market rate, $260 per pop, just 5 clients per day is $1300, 1 month she can earn close to $40k, not to mentioned gifts like branded bags, watches, phones, and even wechat angbaos $520. Just stay away from there, once no demand they will have to reduce their price or go back.
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Those that flaunt their lifestyles and luxury items are usu SYT with sugar daddies. Those more experience and lao chiao ones will not booast or act poor
Those experience and lao chiao ones, pre-covid, they come here and work multiple tours, but when they are back in PRC on annual vacation and put up photos in their wc, can see their nicely furnished apartments back home, kid wear nice clothes, go for enrichment, steady upper middle class life

Financed by hard work here jerk off customers and let them roam 4g/5g Not bad for some of them whose education level not that high and cannot get good job in PRC.
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Good advice but wa bro 100k in a year on investment/stock is quite a ridiculous return. A bit too good to be true unless you are saying you have a very high capital but for context you say 2k per month for chionging which equates to 24k a year and therefore your return is 4x. What about the risks?

I do appreciate the advice on chionging with a limit
Bro, certain years u have to capitalise on the opportunity. In life, once u missed the opportunity, the next one may take 5-10 years to come. Last year, a lot of stocks like Tesla, Teledoc, Zoom, Gloves, Vaccine stocks etc up how many times. Key thing is to use big head when necessary.

I will continue building this pot as I intend to use this as my cheonging pot. Intend to use max 4% of the returns to cheong. About $4000 a year which is not bad right? For life all these companies pay u to cheong for free.
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Whenever I saw those MLs/WLs on wechat/ michat showing off their lavish and extravagant shopping, dining, going to casino, thoughts would flash up in my mind.

For stopping to visit them, stop funding them to their lifestyle, save the money and invest prudently. For every single cent, dollar that could securely earn me at least a 4% per annum would compoundently earns me tons of returns and in turn I would be the one showing-off on social media of my lifestyle.

It becomes a habit whenever my biological urge starts, I would look at my very positive investment account and give a good pat on myself for making the right choice. Spending a few hundred dollars to ease the instant male testosterone by these women are just not worth it.

For any average of $300-500/month that I saved and invested for the past 10years with an average of 12%......bros u can do your own calculations on how much I have accumulated.

That's IMO. No offence to any bros here.
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