Men above 50yrs old, let's talk a bit

[fungrapes2004]

Some recommended supplements to combat ED, boost your energy level and keep aging at bay. Combine with diet and exercise for optimal effect.

Testosterone booster: This is effective. You can feel muscle mass and stamina improvements in around 2-3 weeks. https://www.iherb.com/pr/force-facto...4aAtwgEALw_wcB

Korean Red Ginseng: Take this for a longer term boost to your energy level. https://www.iherb.com/pr/imperial-el...ZXU2FRJTNEJTNE

Cordyceps: Anti-aging properties. Richard Eu from Eu Yan San swears by it. https://www.straitstimes.com/singapo...an-sang-around
https://www.iherb.com/pr/force-facto...b 0FRJTNEJTNE

[Xgenre]

Originally Posted by fungrapes2004

Some recommended supplements to combat ED, boost your energy level and keep aging at bay. Combine with diet and exercise for optimal effect.

Cordyceps: Anti-aging properties. Richard Eu from Eu Yan San swears by it.

Avoid Cordyceps. This Chinese herb has an anti blood clotting ability. If you need any sudden surgery, this drug can cause internal bleeding. It takes 7 days for cordyceps to work its way out of your body. So it's not like you can reverse its effect immediately.

https://www.straitstimes.com/singapo...st-op-bleeding

I think guys around 50 should start taking protein powder to slow down muscle loss. Eating more meat is not good enough.

[Cartraff]

Will be hitting 50 in a few years, but now I am experiencing something different.

Flesh is willing but spirit is weak.

I get erections and do feel like screwing, but just not interested in the forms available outside, whereas before, maybe 10 years ago I would be more optimistic.
So I just diy it away, daily, sometimes twice.

Anyone else also this way ?

[hike]

Originally Posted by Xgenre

I think guys around 50 should start taking protein powder to slow down muscle loss. Eating more meat is not good enough.

In general, I do not think supplements really help.

Think about it, we do not have problems with nutrition in our youth. And our diet normally do not change dramatically suddenly. Thus, I posit that our typical diet have sufficient nutrition for the body's needs.

Therefore the problem is not nutrition. Rather, absent some hormonal stimulus, it is your body's conclusion that it no longer needs the the muscle/bone mass that you previously needed. Thus the body actively dismantle your muscle & bones. Taking in more ingredients won't help, rather it will make the kidneys & liver work harder to get rid of the excess.

We all agree that exercising your muscles will trigger the body to build them up. Likewise, exercising your bones (loading them via weight lifting or hiking) will build them up. I suppose the same goes for you kkj!

FWIW, I had a new friend who was diagnosed with osteopenia (pre-osteoporosis) score of -2.3. After 1 year of hiking with my group, he recently tested out at -0.4 (aka normal!).


So, my philosophy is to live an active life, use all those important parts and they will stay in good condition longer.

[afterburn]

Originally Posted by hike

In general, I do not think supplements really help.

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So, my philosophy is to live an active life, use all those important parts and they will stay in good condition longer.

This is indeed true. Generally that's all that we can do. Of course some protein supplements help, but don't need a mega-dosage like that from protein powders. We are not going to body-build. Eggs and milk intake already plenty.

Once in the 40s and 50s, if your kidneys are okay, no diabetes, no hypertension, no high bp, no gout, consider in quite good shape already. Regular active exercise helps to achieve all these.

[Xgenre]

Originally Posted by afterburn

This is indeed true. Generally that's all that we can do. Of course some protein supplements help, but don't need a mega-dosage like that from protein powders. We are not going to body-build. Eggs and milk intake already plenty.

https://www.healthhub.sg/live-health...d-more-protein

We need more protein as we age. More protein than youngsters need. This website is by MOH. Nothing too fancy, just a daily scoop of protein powder (5 g) stirred into out normal drinks.

Without enough protein, we lose muscle mass. Without enough muscle to support out body frame, skeletal issues arise. Knee pain, feel like vein pulling on muscle, pinched nerve, hunched spine.

There are elderly patients who are tube fed via the nose. Their daily diet consists of milk with protein powder (myotein) stirred in. At about 15-20 grams of protein powder per day, these elderly patients do not lose body weight or muscle mass. Of course many will say regular exercise can slow down muscle loss but how many of us here exercise sufficiently or exercise correctly to reduce the muscle loss problem?

[hike]

Originally Posted by Xgenre

https://www.healthhub.sg/live-health...d-more-protein

We need more protein as we age. More protein than youngsters need. This website is by MOH. Nothing too fancy, just a daily scoop of protein powder (5 g) stirred into out normal drinks.

Without enough protein, we lose muscle mass. Without enough muscle to support out body frame, skeletal issues arise. Knee pain, feel like vein pulling on muscle, pinched nerve, hunched spine.

There are elderly patients who are tube fed via the nose. Their daily diet consists of milk with protein powder (myotein) stirred in. At about 15-20 grams of protein powder per day, these elderly patients do not lose body weight or muscle mass. Of course many will say regular exercise can slow down muscle loss but how many of us here exercise sufficiently or exercise correctly to reduce the muscle loss problem?

Check out a few medical studies:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9320473/ says the studies are all over the place.


https://academic.oup.com/ageing/arti...fad018/7036280 in fact shows the opposite (when tracking twins)!


My conclusion is there is no shortcuts (aka magic pill) for normal folks.

All I can say for myself is my weight went up from 60 to 70kg after I started a more active lifestyle in 2012 and have stayed around 70+/-2 for the past 12 years...

[itguy2008]

Originally Posted by Cartraff

Will be hitting 50 in a few years, but now I am experiencing something different.

Flesh is willing but spirit is weak.

I get erections and do feel like screwing, but just not interested in the forms available outside, whereas before, maybe 10 years ago I would be more optimistic.
So I just diy it away, daily, sometimes twice.

Anyone else also this way ?

Same here. It is like a lazy feeling.

You wait until got a girl flirt with you then you become energised. hahaha.

You don't want just take off clothes and fuck. You want talk, flirt, foreplay then fuck.

Is it that feeling?

[junior_cannibal]

Originally Posted by Cartraff

Will be hitting 50 in a few years, but now I am experiencing something different.

Flesh is willing but spirit is weak.

I get erections and do feel like screwing, but just not interested in the forms available outside, whereas before, maybe 10 years ago I would be more optimistic.
So I just diy it away, daily, sometimes twice.

Anyone else also this way ?

DIY daily yet not wanting to meet a real person outside? And you are only in your 40s?
That's quite jialat.
Find some hobbies that need you to go outdoor, if you chance upon someone nice, then let the magic and chemistry work themselves. Otherwise, at least you have hobbies that you enjoy.
PCC and DIY ain't the same as real sex, after that, just feel pathetic yet when the urge to relieve, will do it again.

[Cartraff]

Originally Posted by itguy2008

You don't want just take off clothes and fuck. You want talk, flirt, foreplay then fuck.

Is it that feeling?

I think maybe, I cannot be sure.
Before, will just paid sex and move on, but now, paid sex is more landmines and not satisfying, leaves me wanting more.
So I just skip paid sex.
Maybe like you said, talk flirt, foreplay first but alas no target.

Originally Posted by junior_cannibal

DIY daily yet not wanting to meet a real person outside? And you are only in your 40s?
That's quite jialat.

I was actually unaffected in terms of lack of sex during covid lockdown, fine with it.
Ever since then, even after lockdown, I just more or less maintained it that way.
Don't really affect me with lack of sex, just curious and find it strange compared to how I was before.

[Abildd]

Testosterone is not unique to humans. The sex hormone is 500 million years old and is found in just every vertebrate (reptiles, amphibians, mammals and birds). It masculinizes species, and that is why men have 20 times more testosterone than women. In humans, this means more muscle mass, broader facial feature, wide shoulders and a deeper voice.

Men who are born with low levels of testosterone have more feminine features, and women with higher levels tend to be more masculine. High testosterone is tightly correlated with many desirable traits, such as a strong sex drive, endless energy, a sharp, sound mind and aggressiveness, that make taking on the challenges of day-to-day life more pleasurable.

General speaking after the age of 30, men lose about one percent of the hormone per year. Many believe this is natural and easily explained by an evolutionary mechanism. As his sex hormone drops, his enthusiasm for such risk-taking pursuits as debaucheries and escapades wanes.

Nature designed men to slow down as they get older. Some like to say this is condition previously known as aging. At the ages of 40, 65 and 70 most guys will have lower levels of the hormone that their fathers had at the same age.

Some endocrinologists suspect novel estrogenic compounds in the modern environment play a role; these compounds include pesticides, phthalates in personal care products, BPA in plastic food containers, phytoestrogens in plants such as soy and flame retardants in our computers, couches and mattresses.

Of course there is a strong correlation between overweight (high blood pressure, high cholesterol, elevated blood sugar, pre-diabetes) and having lowered testosterone. The bigger the belly, the lower the testosterone. If men lose weight, their testosterone will go up.

Simple ways to boost testosterone naturally include cutting out refined carbohydrate and processed foods, lifting heavy weights, sleeping more and exposing oneself regularly to the sun. High vitamin D levels are strongly correlated with high levels of the sex hormone.

Testosterone therapy has a long list of side effects. Some of the most common are back acne and testicular shrinkage. The male sex hormone is made on the testes; when it is supplemented, the glands shrink like underused muscles.

[supershaft]

for those whom are single at 40s onwards, wana go find commercial sex also quite stress during the act, paranoid if skin break on own body.. after piaking when wash up scared the virus get into broken skin etc etc... wana DFK to taste her tongue also scared its been sucking too much cocks and filthy... cant reli play to heart's content, considering its paid entertainment.. sian man

[itguy2008]

Originally Posted by Cartraff

I think maybe, I cannot be sure.
Before, will just paid sex and move on, but now, paid sex is more landmines and not satisfying, leaves me wanting more.
So I just skip paid sex.
Maybe like you said, talk flirt, foreplay first but alas no target.



I was actually unaffected in terms of lack of sex during covid lockdown, fine with it.
Ever since then, even after lockdown, I just more or less maintained it that way.
Don't really affect me with lack of sex, just curious and find it strange compared to how I was before.

I also find that I am becoming more troublesome.

[fastshot]

Originally Posted by supershaft

for those whom are single at 40s onwards, wana go find commercial sex also quite stress during the act, paranoid if skin break on own body.. after piaking when wash up scared the virus get into broken skin etc etc... wana DFK to taste her tongue also scared its been sucking too much cocks and filthy... cant reli play to heart's content, considering its paid entertainment.. sian man

that's funny. do you mean, because older liao, have too much knowledge?

[Ray06]

Originally Posted by Cartraff

Will be hitting 50 in a few years, but now I am experiencing something different.
Flesh is willing but spirit is weak.
I get erections and do feel like screwing, but just not interested in the forms available outside, whereas before, maybe 10 years ago I would be more optimistic.
So I just diy it away, daily, sometimes twice.
Anyone else also this way ?

Oh, that is very wasteful .
Exercise more and eat Good food.
Take some stouts, be happy then everything would come naturally.
I wish I am at your age.....lol